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Nice to see mainstream European opinion coming over to Trump’s way of thinking

Trump has long argued it was unreasonable for US taxpayers to be subsidising Europe’s defence when European governments are unwilling to stump up to defend themselves.

It seems that today, many European pundits are now belatedly in agreement with Trump, yet I have encountered quite a lot of annoyance when I point this out. It is hard to not laugh 😀

10 comments to Nice to see mainstream European opinion coming over to Trump’s way of thinking

  • Given the levels of NATO expenditure when Trump made his original argument back in 2016 and where it is today, it seems like most European NATO members have come to Trump’s point of view, NOT because of Trump, but because of the War in Ukraine.

    Trump was right, but the War was what made the most difference.

  • If people genuinely think Russia is a clear & now present threat (as I do) then 2% is derisory, as the Polish government clearly agrees.

  • Fraser Orr

    @Perry de Havilland (Prague)
    If people genuinely think Russia is a clear & now present threat (as I do) then 2% is derisory, as the Polish government clearly agrees.

    Especially so if you have been neglecting your military for decades — since the quality of your military is cumulative over a long period of time. Nobody buys their whole airforce and navy in one year’s budget.

  • JJM

    And don’t forget my country Canada, where our Dear Bollywood Leader in Blackface has all but ignored our defence commitments.

    You know, I believe we might be in for a bit of a reckoning.

    A federal election here is more than overdue!

  • JJM

    If people genuinely think Russia is a clear & now present threat (as I do) then 2% is derisory, as the Polish government clearly agrees.

    I do think Russia – as utterly shambolic as it is – is a threat (perhaps all the more so because of its military incompetence) and I agree.

  • bobby b

    But those governments are spending piles of money to import angry and hostile undocumented young men of military age.

    Doesn’t that count as military spending?

  • Paul Marks

    I see the arguments that we need to increase military spending.

    However, with government spending already cripplingly high – how can this be financed?

    I know I sound like a old fashioned record with the needle stuck – but the Western world is going to have an economic crash in 2025, so the financing problem for the military is only going to get worse.

    Donald J. Trump, contrary to what many people have been brainwashed into thinking, is a good man – he means well. But President Trump can not repeal the laws of economics – the American economy is going to crash, he would have to be Moses parting the Red Sea to prevent this.

    As for Britain and so on – they lack natural resources and industrial strength, and they are making themselves WORSE with terrible policies (on “Green” stuff and so on).

    This also applies to Germany.

    What the bleep are the Free Democrats doing being in government with the SPD and the Greens?

  • Martin

    What the bleep are the Free Democrats doing being in government with the SPD and the Greens?

    My observation is that the German parties from the CDU/CSU on the ‘centre right’ all the way to Die Linke on the ‘left’ are wings of an effective uniparty. I’m pretty sure the FDs have collaborated with socialists and/or the greens previously as well. The only genuine opposition parties are AfD on the Nationalist right and the BSW as a socially conservative economically socialist party.

    I would agree that it seems highly questionable how mass rearmament in Europe will be realistically paid for. I think there were definite opportunities to have sorted all this out in the early 1990s after Communism collapsed in Eastern Europe, or in the aftermath of the schism within NATO over the Iraq war after 2003. Or even during the first Trump presidency. Sadly none of these opportunities were taken.

  • Snorri Godhi

    Elon Musk is on record as saying that he expects to reduce federal expenditures by $2 trillions per year. That should be enough to pay for defending Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, until the local powers get their own militaries in order.

    That is assuming that Elon is not being too optimistic; but who can blame Elon for excessive optimism, given his record?

  • Fraser Orr

    @Snorri Godhi
    Elon Musk is on record as saying that he expects to reduce federal expenditures by $2 trillions per year. That should be enough to pay for defending Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, until the local powers get their own militaries in order.

    The purpose of reducing federal spending is to stop spending it, not to spend it on a different government program like military aid to foreign countries. The US government has close to quarter of a million dollars in debt for every american household, and if you include unfunded liabilities it is closer to one and a half million dollars per american household. Someone, sometime needs to start to pay that down, or at least stop adding to it.

    Nonetheless, I think all three of these hotspots will be considerably less hot six months from now.

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