I will forever remember that it was Russia’s invasion of Ukraine that made me realise the political right is as retarded as the political left.
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Exactly my take. It has been instructive. We live in an age of rising tribalism.
‘We live in an age of rising tribalism’
Maybe; arguably a lot of the ‘fake and gay’ elements of Clown World have served as an attempt to mask and obscure ( over a period of many years) the underlying nature of mankind, which is to be tribal, and are now rapidly being dismantled. Maybe it’s the tide going out and revealing the tribalism, not tribalism rising.
The imperative now is to recognize this snapback to reality after a period of self delusion, especially in Europe. And act accordingly.
An eternal verity: just as there are moonbats on the left, so there are wingnuts on the right.
Unfortunately, both are on the ascendant in the US.
That there are “retards” on the “right”, was obvious to me over a decade ago.
But…
1. I would call them ‘insane’ rather than ‘retarded’.
2. As you might expect, i blame this problem on “right”-wingers eating a diet almost as brain-damaging as that of “left”-wingers.
3. Not all people on the “right” are insane/retarded; meanwhile, the (relatively?) sane on the “left” are jumping ship (eg Musk, Gabbard, RFK Jr).
Yep.
Just who on the political right are you folks and Tim Newman refering to? Blanket accusations are not especially convincing.
Read the entire remark, it’s pretty damn obvious it’s the people who’ve bravely rejected the Western mainstream narrative on Ukraine only to swallow the Russian mainstream narrative on Ukraine, all to show what red-pilled heroes they are. If that’s not retarded, I don’t know what is.
Lots of grifters and too many people who were (and still effectively are) liberals who like to tone police and act as containment. But the US right was much more insufferable in the George W Bush/John McCain days.
Tuman, I didn’t know there was an entire remark because I couldn’t see more than what was quoted under “quote of the day”.
Rightly or wrongly, the US right became predisposed to dislike Ukraine after watching how Ukraine’s leaders and the Biden admin worked hand-in-hand to enrich each other, to uphold and support each other’s fictions, and to just generally bring public-fund venality to a new level. This all started before Russia invaded.
This has allowed much of the right to remain in ignorance of the moralities of the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Ukraine became an embodiment of Biden’s evils to them. “Tribal” is correct.
Sometimes “the friend of my enemy is my enemy” isn’t merely incorrect, it’s crippling. The Ukraine peoples’ situation deserves to be examined and judged apart from its leaders’ allyship with the worst aspects of Biden and the US kleptos.
“Moralities”? Two of the most corrupt oligarchies on the planet restart a war over land that their ancestors have been fighting over before recorded history. Picking a side solely on the basis of the most recent war crime is short sighted at best.
I feel comfortable using “moralities” because, while we can argue the evilness of Putin or Zelenskyy, they aren’t among the quarter-million dead. The moral arguments down at the grunt level or the villager level don’t really extend to considerations of oligarchy.
But it’s too easy for people who have distance to ignore non-political considerations.
Bobby B
I’ll buy whatever size you’re offering at 250,000.
Supporting Ukraine should be based on the geopolitical imperative to stop expansionist Russia moving westwards. That’s it. Ukraine is not a threat, Russia aggressively & demonstrably is.
Isn’t there also a moral obligation for the US and UK (and the consequent risk of losing respect) following from the Budapest Memorandum?
After the ritual exchange of insults (the media has gleefully talked about the insults from President Trump – but carefully covered up the insults he received first – it was an EXCHANGE of insults) it is to be hoped that a agreement between Washington and Kiev will still be reached.
As with aid to Britain during World War II, aid can not be a blank cheque – it has to, over the LONG term, be a two way street – NOT a “take over” of Ukrainian natural resources, but joint development – beneficial to both parties.
Then the military aid to Kiev can continue – which is not made easier by the tidal wave of insults directed at President Trump (and others) by British and other media sources, they seem to be obsessed with making him lose his temper and walk away from an agreement.
Sebastian Gorka, and others with a realistic view of Mr Putin (that Mr Putin is an Al Capone type criminal) have had their work cut out recently.
Nine years of insults and vicious persecution has not made Donald J. Trump a very easy going man – his instinct (these days – not when he did not care about being publicly “roasted” on television shows in his younger days) is to respond with anger, to strike back at people who hurt him and his family and friends – and that response has to be prevented with tact and diplomacy.
Still the response from President Trump tends to be verbal (and the storm cloud of anger quickly passes) – unlike President Jackson who sometimes shot people who offended him.
When you working with a man with a short temper (as I was only yesterday – although that man was also very ill) – do not repeatedly provoke him.
As for the idea that Russia is socially conservative – an image that the better propagandists that Mr Putin employs (and some of them are very good at their job) carefully cultivate, it is FALSE.
In reality Russia has a sky high abortion rate, and lots of other “Progressive” things, such as lots of crime.
The spin is wildly different from the reality of Russia. As real Russian conservatives are only too bitterly aware – particularly as they watch the forces that are following into Russian cities, and observe Mr Putin’s alliance with them.
Mr Putin poses as a Russian patriot and Orthodox Christian – he is neither.
“Mr Putin poses as a Russian patriot and Orthodox Christian – he is neither.”
He’s a gopnik who has done very well for himself indeed.
And anyone still attempting to justify Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is pretty much a gopnik too.
LOL, haven’t heard that wonderful expression “gopnik” in years 😀