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Blyatskrieg in Russia

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We live in interesting times…

June 24th, 2023 |

9 comments to Blyatskrieg in Russia

  • Snorri Godhi
    June 24, 2023 at 8:27 pm

    I am afraid that i don’t get the joke.
    But please do not bother to explain it to me, if it bores you.

    PS: the guy in the clip looks a bit like Zelenskyy — but he is distictly less good-looking.

  • Snorri Godhi
    June 24, 2023 at 8:30 pm

    A message that i sent to closest friends+family:
    Tomorrow we’ll wake up to a world very different from that of yesterday.

  • Perry de Havilland (London)
    June 24, 2023 at 8:46 pm

    Yes, it is Zelenskyy many years ago

  • Henning
    June 24, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    It’s probably from that TV series where he played an ordinary citizen who was elected president and fought corruption and the oligarchs. Then he found out that real life doesn’t follow the script :-/

  • Snorri Godhi
    June 24, 2023 at 9:42 pm

    Yes, it is Zelenskyy many years ago

    Ah, then he has aged well.

    Like yours truly, if i can say so myself.

  • Fraser Orr
    June 24, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    Triggernometry has some great commentary on this. TL;DR it seems that Wagner and Prigozhin are heading back to base (allegedly they don’t want to shed Russian blood, which is an odd thing to hear from the head of such a violent organization, but perhaps he is in earnest.) Supposedly a peace treaty was negotiated by Belarus, which seems an odd, or perhaps a ludicrous thing to say. So probably not the coup that everyone here seems to be hoping for. It is probably as sign of weakening by Putin, but don’t think that Putin is done — very far from it. And I imagine Putin’s retribution will be brutal and merciless. If it isn’t, then Putin is definitely toast, which is why it will be.

    However, Kisin gives a lot of very interesting information from someone I generally consider a pretty balanced and deeply knowledgeable source, even though I don’t agree with a lot of his positions. So definitely worth a listen.

  • Bogdan the Aussie
    June 25, 2023 at 8:07 am

    A very good analysis of the current events by one of the best – Jeff Nyquist

    Regards

    https://jrnyquist.blog/2023/06/24/the-mutiny-in-russia/#comments

  • AndrewZ
    June 25, 2023 at 1:40 pm

    The writing was on the wall for Prigozhin when Shoigu ordered all PMC soldiers, including Wagner’s, to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defence. If he agreed, he would eventually lose control over his troops and lose his powerbase. If he refused, he might be charged with treason. So, I think that the purpose of this mutiny was to show what Prigozhin could do if he wasn’t given a way out, and Putin understood the message. Of course, the Russian government will now treat all Wagner personnel as unreliable. Its soldiers will be re-assigned to regular army units or other PMCs, or sent far away to Africa or Syria. Prigozhin gets his exit route, Putin removes a potential rival, the suckers who followed Prigozhin get betrayed, and incidentally the Russian war effort is harmed by dismantling some of its more effective fighting units. It’s corrupt, cynical, business as usual for Russian oligarchs.

  • Y. Knott
    June 26, 2023 at 3:14 pm

    I agree with Nyquist completely on this – here’s a post I put on Small Dead Animals:

    “My personal take on the “civil war” { – I know – you all care what I think…}

    Prigozhin told Pootie-baby “I want out; I’m leaving you.”

    Pootie-baby told Prigozhin “Well, if you insist… oh I know! Why don’t you pretend you’re rebelling against Russia? Scare the fr1g out of my subje – err, citizens, make me look like a hero for defeating your rebellion, bolster support for the war – why not, I’ll give you another $20 million!”

    Prigozhin said “uhh, okay – how do you want me to do it?”

    Pootie-baby said “I’ll send you a couple of Generals with the money – they’ll pose for pictures with you, scare people into thinking the army is rising, pass you a plan for pulling all this off – lotsa’ fun!”

    Prigozhin – “Okay, let’s do it!”

    I was really, really suspicious about those “Ukrainian” “drone” strikes on the Kremlin that did no damage and were – oh, so conveniently – caught on “security” cameras; I rate this “civil war” as just another Russian propaganda movie. “Prigozhin the TRAITOR is forgiven as long as he goes away – all his troops are welcomed back into the fold, now their leader has left – we’re back to business-as-usual within 36 hours flat, ain’t I GREAT?!”

    No tyrant in history has ever forgiven an armed rebellion – I’m calling bull$hit on this one.”

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