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Saw a shit tonne of these good things in Brum today!
The last one, about Germany, is the most hitting, because it is so close to the bone. I’ve seen more graffiti on ‘covid’ signs in Cambridge. If there’s dissent in Cambridge to totalitarianism, there is hope.
Excellent
Could we add a picture of Lord Bethell with the slogan:
“If you see this man”
“Punch him.”
(Lord Bethell is arguing against foreign holidays.)
Problem with that is that most people view the last year as a paid vacation, rather than a nightmare.
No one has any excuse now (after more than a year of this) for not knowing where lockdowns and mask mandates and the SMEARING OF EARLY TREATMENT lead.
It leads to New York State – 53 thousand dead. And New Jersey – 26 thousand dead. And a smashed economy that no amount of Federal bailouts (financed by creating money-from-nothing) will really fix.
As for the United Kingdom – the Parliamentary Conservative Party has made it clear to the Prime Minister that the restrictions must not continue after the 21st of June 2021.
The United Kingdom will still be in a 400 Billion Pound hole (remember the “Opposition” wanted even more money spent and even more restrictions), but at least on June 21 2021, we stop digging the hole deeper.
As for the idea that a country in this economic position can afford a “Green New Deal” (or whatever)_ – well we just can not, and neither can the United States.
If the Greens really are interested in C02 emissions – then they should go and protest against CHINA, which is the country that produces most C02 emissions. Ranting about the United Kingdom whilst doing nothing against the People’s Republic of China, is the height of hypocrisy.
Till I see “Green” demonstrations in the streets against People’s Republic of China – then I have no reason to believe that they are sincere.
Many of these are a phrase too long. White Rose needs an editor.
Fortunately, I won’t be holding my breath. Doing so, while waiting for the Tory party to honor an undertaking would probably suffocate me faster than COVID-19.
AH the irony of “Greens” railing against the one thing, CO2, that makes the planet truly green!
The masks were the least damaging and least offensive of covid measures. To single out the masks is infantile.
And… there is some logic in them. I wish strangers would not breathe on me. I know it’s up to me to avoid them… still, in public, were they can’t be avoided, masks help make me more confortable.
The other day I visited a doctor. I was quite happy that all people in the waiting room wore masks. The mask I wore, too, for half an hour or so, didn’t feel like a terrible loss of freedom for me.
Jacob has no problem with pandemic pantomime theatre. Don’t be like Jacob when there are countless peer reviewed papers showing how pointless masks are in a non-clinical setting.
Not to the girl who collapsed at the end of her school sports race, after Oregon required her to wear a mask while running 800 metres. (That said, you can certainly argue, statistically, that lockdown’s long-term economic effects will cause more harm than masks.)
I loathed the mask (got a face shield early on for such times as it was polite to wear something). I appreciate this is me – clearly, some people found the mask no big deal to wear, easier to keep on than put in a pocket when outside, etc. There was much virtue-signalling in the wearing of masks but, from what I observed, it was clear that a minority found it much less physically irksome than I did.
There was not much logic in last year’s “Don’t wear masks – trust science!” followed by “Wear masks – trust science!”. One can make a plausible-sounding case for masks (as, earlier, against masks), but one can make a very plausible-sounding case for thinking people who issue these changing orders don’t actually know.
Yesterday I chanced to be in an NHS hospital waiting room for an hour, during which time I saw two masked nurses holding a conversation. After several minutes, someone along the corridor from my line-of-sight called out something to them. I guessed what it was from the fact that they abruptly moved from standing adjacent to each other to standing against the corridor’s opposite walls – just about 6 feet away – as they continued their conversation. It was plain these (vaccinated, I would guess) nurses were finding the rules more theatre than reality.
All good and hard hitting except the mutating one. I do understand the point they are making but all single stranded RNA viruses like SARS-Cov-2 mutate easily. So suggesting it is a bit of a conspiracy too, is not part of it. The Germany one is absolutely spot on.
https://rumble.com/vgw287-wi-teacher-bulliesabuses-student-for-not-wearing-a-mask-at-lunch.html
A well-fed educator proving that Covid self-righteousness plus the US public education system is too heady a mix for some.
So the masks that block oxygen (0.3nm across) don’t stop SARS-CoV-2 (100nm across)?
Or to put it another way, the masks allow virions through them but stop oxygen molecules 1/300th the size?
How does this work?
At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: flow rate, not particle size, is the issue when a person is exerting themselves. That’s how that works.
I agree with staghounds. These are just the sort of slogans that are likely to appeal to the Perry de Havillands of the world ….. well educated already convinced libertarians who don’t mind long sentences full of polysyllables.
“The Sun Says..” it ain’t.
What is required to appeal to the common man or woman, or inbetweenie, is something more along the rhetorical lines of – “Sod Off Swampy.”
Moreover :
1. the cartoons look like they’re out of the 1950s – not an effnik in sight. As I scrolled down I was almost expecting the next self satisifed whitey guy to be smoking a pipe.
2. White Rose ? Never heard of it, but it’s positively begging for the Graun to do a hit piece about alt right fascisti.
I dunno. Pithy slogans are great for rallying the troops. But if you’re trying to recruit new troops, you need a bit more information in your message.
i’ve put up about 800 of these things over last couple months in one city and two towns, almost all being the three variants I like (there are hundreds). they’re design to appeal to different people, so if you like the short ones, just put the short ones up. i love the 1950s style faces. I went to a poly now called a uni and drive a forklift truck for a living. I met mates who also do this at a covid speakeasy & most of us are ex-labour type who don’t recognise labour anymore.
APL – Mr Johnson wants to remain Prime Minister, and people who do not listen to the “men in grey suits” do not remain office. The 1922 Committee has already indicated what the position has-to-be – the Covid stuff stops on June 21st. Covid 19 will carry on (one can not wish away a disease), but the hysteria around it will stop being pushed by official restrictions – and (who knows) perhaps Early Treatment will finally be followed.
Still that is just on Covid – next there is the “Green New Deal” to be dealt with. With the public utterly conditioned (by decades of constant propaganda from every media, and corporate source) to think “the world will catch fire” unless we do X,Y,Z, the fact that we CAN NOT do X,Y,Z, (with the costs of Covid. carrying on the “Green New Deal” will be even more unaffordable than it was before) is going to be a tricky one to manage.
How can the government (any government) go from saying “we must do this or WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE” to saying “well we can not actually do this” – the public will (naturally enough) respond by saying “that means WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE”. Catch 22 – we MUST NOT follow this policy (it would lead to utter disaster to do so), but we MUST follow the policy – because the public have been convinced that WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE if we do not – the world will “catch fire” and we will all burn alive, and drown by rising sea levels (burn and drown – yes at the same time).
J.M. Keynes said it was easier for men such as Lloyd-George to get bad ideas into the head of President Wilson than it was for the same men to get those false ideas out of Wilson’s head (when they realised the ideas they had put there were going to cause harm to everyone – including themselves).
Once the public, or part of it, have been convinced that we will all die horribly if we do not follow the Green agenda (which is economically impossible to do), it is be hard to get that idea out of their heads (it would have rather better if government departments had not help put the idea there in the first place).
No wonder the People’s Republic of China and Putin’s Russia and laughing at us – they do not have populations that have been convinced that C02 is a deadly poison which will kill their children (by burning them, drowning them – and so on). And it would not matter if they did – as elections are fake in Putin’s Russia and Xi’s China (just as fake as Mr Biden’s election).
By the way the sea levels have been rising for thousands of years – I very much doubt that anyone was riding around in motor cars when the North Sea or the Black Sea flooded. Although there is the story that Plato tells about the shepherd who falls into an old abandoned bunker and finds a magic ring, but also finds a horseless carriage and……
Last point – my standard observation, if people really are seriously concerned about C02 emissions they should support the radical deregulation of nuclear power – as that is the only way to greatly expand nuclear power and radically reduce C02 emissions.
Sadly the public have also been taught that nuclear power means WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE.
Interesting ROLB – as you are part of the movement you know that the “White Rose” were an anti Nazi resistance movement in Germany.
Lee Moore knows that as well – he just hopes the Guardian will stupid enough to assume that “White Rose” is a symbol of Alt Right White Supremacy.
Human respirable aerosols (those things on which the viruses typically travel through the air) range from 2 to 5 microns in size. A micron is approximately 1/25,000th of an inch. The largest and most easily stopped is therefore approximately 1/5,000th of an inch in diameter.
The average non-rated cloth or paper mask has a mesh opening size of (at best) 1/500th of an inch.
This is not trying to stop mosquitoes from entering your windows with chain link fencing, it’s trying to stop gnats from entering by putting burglar bars across them.
Add in the fact that without an air-tight seal most of the exhaled aerosols simply divert around the mask and the futility becomes even more obvious.
Masks always have been, are now, and will continue to be utterly, completely, and totally useless in preventing or slowing the transmission of a virus.
I won’t even go into the nanometer scale of the viruses themselves.
If I ever knew that Paul, then I had forgotten. But as you say it would be fun if the Graun had an anti-fascist rant at it.
Yes, those pics on Whiterose (which does sound fascist – I know it isn’t – but that is not the point of propaganda – or whatever you wanna call it – it’s what it sounds like that matters). The ’50s style faces remind me of old spoof Viz ads – “They’re happy because they eat lard!”
I agree with Paul. The elephant is China. Way too much Green (and “greenish” thinking – the sort of “consensus”) ignores the appalling environmental degradation in parts of China (and elsewhere) so we can have wind-power and electric cars. Way too many of those folk who think they are thinking globally are Hobbits pootling round The Shire in their electric Tookmobiles without thinking at all about what it’s like in Mordor where the mining and manufacturing is actually done.
An oxygen molecule is about 0.3nm across. That’s about 10,000 times smaller than the aerosol droplet, which is 1,000 times smaller than the mesh opening.
At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: flow rate through a mesh is partially governed by particle size. If the difference between the two is that much, there will be no or negligible effect on flow rate.
You wouldn’t change the flow rate of gnats through your window with burgular bars. Nor will a mask significantly affect the flow of air.
Oh good grief. Do this, seriously, just do it: put a mask on, go run around the block, then tell me it makes no difference to your airflow. Is this really a hill you want to die on?
Easy enough to test. Hold a mask across your mouth, so that it is tightly sealed but the fabric is still loose. Now exhale strongly into the mask. Does it puff out? If it does, it is restricting the airflow. If it does not, it isn’t.
Also, on second thought its pretty easy to see that fluid flow through an aperture doesn’t depend on the size of the mesh covering the aperture, but only on the total portion of the aperture that is obstructed. This is NOT true for viruses, by the way, as they are not liquids. You only need a threshold exposure to a virus to be “exposed” to it.
So, how much of the opening of your nose and mouth is effectively covered by the mask mesh? 20%? 50%? I am sure it must be something like that.
Sounds like a meaningful airway obstruction to me.
Or think about it using your example: if the burglar bars are 10cm apart, but they are 7cm wide, they might indeed provide some obstruction to the flow of a fluid (but not of course to gnats, which are more like a virus in your model).
(Edited by the management: no need for the extended ad-hom)
As for establishment sources – it is now clear they lie about many things, not just Covid 19, but also historic temperature figures (American government websites do not match their own written records – and are changed), criminal trials (both the Federal “Justice” system and the system of several States, such as New York, is a sick farce), voting in elections, and-so-on. The international government and corporate sources are an indication of what is not the truth – rather than what is the truth. Their totalitarian collectivist objective is not a “conspiracy” because it is out in the open, they boast about it – as anyone who has watched British television advertisements knows (the Sustainable Development, Stakeholder Capitalism, Agenda 2030 stuff is not hidden – it is shoved in our faces).
As for C02 – there is no evidence that it has caused environmental degradation in China (on the contrary increased C02 levels are good for plant growth), but NickM is correct there has been environmental degradation in wide areas of the People’s Republic of China – due to the lack of PRIVATE PROPERTY in land and rivers (rivers are often “public” in the West – and there are great problems with that – private rivers did not tend to be polluted in the 19th century, but government owned rivers often were), the lease holding is subject to the whims of the Communist Party – presently they allow people to become rich, but they could change that policy at any time. As no one really owns land in China (they can not be sure that they will pass it on to their children and children’s children) there is no reason to preserve land for the future – and if a person tries to do so, the Communist Party will give the land to someone who does not care about the future.
A similar idea was pushed by the Obama Administration (and may well return under the criminals Biden/Harris) – ironically the claim that government control of all land would “preserve the environment”, the method chosen was to declare that any land with water on it was a Federal government concern – which would, over time, have made private property in land in the United States a legal fiction with all land being de facto government owned. Freedom of Speech was also redefined, in relation to universities, as not including speech that would “harm” supposedly oppressed groups – this means that Freedom of Speech did not die some sort of natural death in American universities, it was murdered by the Obama Administration (who abused Title Nine of the Civil Rights Act for a Frankfurt School Marxist purpose – as they considered Freedom of Speech “Repressive Tolerance” in line with the teachings of Herbert Marcuse and other figures of the Frankfurt School) and the indoctrinated students are now managers in Corporations and so on.
I wish I had some easy fix for the continuing collapse of Western Civilisation – but I do not. The problem goes back long before January 2009 (President Obama was just the next stage of it) – even in the late 19th century such “great intellectuals” as Richard Ely were pushing collectivist lies (in economics and much else) and pushing censorship – ironically the “Academic Freedom” organisation he created was really intended to crush dissent, and he wanted the American Economics Association (which he created) to EXCLUDE real economists – he resigned when they refused to drive out non Collectivists. This vile man was the mentor to at least two Presidents – “Teddy” Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson.
The West has been under attack for a very long time indeed – it is just our misfortune to live in a time when the Collectivists now dominate just about everything (including the Corporations – who follow every fad slavishly, and are vicious to anyone who does not), and the attack on the West is reaching its climax.
Will Western Civilisation survive? I do not know – I just do not know.
There’s something of the Remainer or the Guardian lefty liberal about these slogans – allegedly clever people explaining things to the ignorant and impressionable.
Patronising.
These stickers might help feed the egos of those who post them but I doubt they are effective as campaigning tools.
I’ve just returned by road to East Yorkshire from the Lake District and saw this slogan in huge letters on a bridge over the motorway:
“RESISTANCE IS FERTILE STOP VOTING AND START GROWING.”
I can only think that we are being encouraged to forget about politics and save the world by doing guerrilla gardening.
If it annoys you, pete, it’s probably on the right track 🤣
I’ll just add here that my 86-year-old father who has COPD has to take his mask off in order to walk up a flight of stairs. Without the mask he has no problem. With the mask he has to sit down on the top stair and try to catch his breath.
bobby, I don’t think anyone seriously thinks a mask has no impact on flow rate. One can only speculate why anyone would even say it 😉
Mr. De Havilland:
I spent 27 years as an engineer designing air filtration systems for gas turbine power plants. For someone to say, “flow rate through a mesh is partially governed by particle size. If the difference between the two is that much, there will be no or negligible effect on flow rate” is such an abject contradiction of the understanding of basic engineering as to boggle the mind.
The company for which I worked filtered air down to sub-micron levels using a wide variety of filter media, NONE of which approached a mesh size of diatomic molecules. And yet, somehow, we always had to worry about pressure drop. Apparently GIngerdave has developed the perfect filtration media, which is invisible, weighs nothing, requires no airtight seal, and has zero pressure drop. We used to worry about increases in delta-P of more than a tenth of an inch of water; I guess he’ll be selling his filter media to the world now.
It has been a well-known fact for the past hundred years that masks are useless against viral transmission. All one has to do is contrast the moon-suits used in virology labs with the “bandana across the face” to understand how actual protection works. I’ve designed military NBC (nuclear/biological/chemical) filtration systems (that I still cannot discuss) and the difference between those and the relatively simple gas turbine filter systems is enormous.
And yet the discussions in the lame-stream media all center on “when can we take our masks off”, rather than the central question of, “do masks perform any positive function in preventing or slowing the spread of viral diseases”. The Danish study alone (more than 6,000 people) of the ‘rona puts the lie to the latter. Every single study done has shown that non-rated cloth and paper masks have no positive effect, and have many negative effects. Hypoxia is only one of them; the negative effects also include higher rates of other infections, including bacterial and fungal. Major dental issues are also now arising from chronic mask use. Despite that, many of the government-funded studies conclude that, “masks should be worn anyway, mostly for the psychological benefit”. I guess that’s now considered “sciencey”.
This despite the fact that places that underwent lockdowns and mask mandates suffered higher infection rates and death rates than those without mandates.
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The stickers don’t annoy me at all, Perry.
Like you, I’m all for free speech, even for people who think I’m not as clever and aware as they are.
I’m sure there’ll be many inquiries and studies into the world’s reaction to the covid crisis and I’ll take a keen interest.
Conspiracy theories of world domination are not my thing. I prefer explanations which involve incompetence, arrogance, ignorance and overconfidence when governments make mistakes.