Canada’s second generation Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is in a spot of bother.
The Guardian reports, “Justin Trudeau ‘does not remember’ groping reporter at festival”.
Justin Trudeau has publicly addressed allegations that he groped a reporter at an event 18 years ago, saying he does not recall any “negative interactions” taking place that day.
Which is only to be expected, given it was eighteen years ago. After such a long time it is surely unfair to drag up an unproven accusation from way back to blacken a man’s name now… Except that is exactly what the tousle-headed heartthrob of 24 Sussex Drive did to others.
The Canadian National Post has two good articles on the subject. Firstly,
Andrew Coyne: Trudeau has to say something about groping accusation. Yet what can he say?
If he confessed “I did it. It was a fleeting moment of madness for which I apologized at the time, and which I regret today,” that would not be the worst thing in the world, assuming no other cases emerged. Except that, having famously established, with great fanfare, a zero tolerance policy for his party and himself in such matters, with no statute of limitations, he would then have to explain why he should not have to pay the same price that others have had to pay for similar offences.
But what if he did not do it? Well, judging from the way Trudeau has treated others, that should make no difference. According to a second article in the National Post:
Joe Oliver: Groping allegations snare Justin Trudeau in a trap he created himself
As a self-proclaimed feminist, Justin Trudeau mandated a gender-equal cabinet and repeatedly proclaimed his devotion to women’s rights. He dealt ruthlessly with two Liberal members of Parliament who were accused of inappropriate behaviour by unnamed members of the NDP caucus. Without warning, the accused were booted from the Liberal caucus at an open meeting. They were not provided any information about the allegations against them, any chance to defend themselves or even to inform their spouses before their simultaneous show trial and sentence went public. In an instant, political careers were eviscerated and reputations in tatters.
The price of the presumption of guilt can be heavier even than that. In not unrelated news, remember “Nick”, the man whose accusations of every crime from sexual abuse to murder against the former Conservative MP Harvey Proctor among many others were infamously described as “credible and true” by Detective Superintendent Kenny McDonald without the formality of a trial?
Man who said he was victim of VIP child sexual abuse ring charged
The man who claimed to have been the victim of a VIP child sexual abuse and murder ring has been charged with 12 counts of perverting the course of justice and one of fraud.
The claims from “Nick” led to Scotland Yard’s disastrous Operation Midland investigation. He is charged over false claims of child sexual abuse and child killings.
The Crown Prosecution Service said on Tuesday it had authorised the series of criminal charges against the 50-year-old man, who cannot be named for legal reasons.
The claims led to the Met investigating public figures including the former military chief Lord Bramall, the former home secretary Leon Brittan and the former Conservative MP Harvey Proctor.
One charge against Nick relates to Proctor and accuses him of “doing acts tending and intended to pervert the course of public justice, in that he made a false allegation of witnessing the child homicide of an unnamed boy committed by Mr Harvey Proctor”.
You’d need a heart of stone not to laugh at Trudeau’s situation
Perry: Heart of stone was my exact first thought too.
The santimonious slimeball may very well be hoist by his own petard. Jesus was cannier… he said let those who are without sin cast the first stone. but Trudeau has already wrecked the greenhouse.
From various news reports, there’s plenty of groping going on in Cuckada but as much of it is from the new Canadians arriving from sunnier climes and eager to get their hands on prime North American assets, it is of no consequence as far as the likes of Presidente Castro’s supposedly alleged offspring (what? really?) is concerned.
I am laughing despite my cold, stone heart.
Trudeau is turning into Pilate, washing his warm, groping hands, don’t we all find it risible?
In case people are unaware:
According to Ezra Levant at Rebel Media, the bastards in our government have postponed Tommy Robinson’s appeal against his prison sentence and an application for bail. It was set for 10, July 2018 and a judge has even been appointed – Mr Leveson, whose name seems familiar.
The low life’s on the government side are saying they are not familiar with the case and need more time to prepare. One has to ask, time to prepare for what; it’s a very simple case; unless they haven’t quite finalised their stitch up story to make sure Tommy serves the full term, if he lives that long.
The swamp dwellers who are currently in charge of our country are beneath contempt.
From the day Robespierre was guillotined, the left has eaten its own. Working for the NKVD was one of the statistical factors that increased the chance of arrest during Stalin’s great purge. ‘Innocent until accused’ has always been a two-edged sword.
I will make a wild guess that the Liberal MPs Justin destroyed without trial, named accusers or specific charges were not key allies of his.
“Groping allegations snare Justin Trudeau in a trap he created himself”
I’m reminded of someone, but I can’t think who.
JIC–Leveson has already been running his mouth off about TR’s supposed “guilt”.
He must surely now be obliged to stand down. How can he “review” a case when he has already pontificated publically that TR is guilty in the matter.
I wait to hear from the Secret Barrack Room Lawdog as to how Leveson’s brazen bias is all in order legal-like.
http://kippercentral.com/2018/07/02/exclusive-lord-leveson-declares-tommy-guilty-before-appeal/
Mr Ecks,
To even consider that one of Her Majesty’s judges might be biased is, frankly, absurd, any judge will tell you that, and the very helpful piece you linked omits a second ‘limb’ as lawyers call it, to the test, which is whether a well-informed observer, aware of all material facts might consider that there is an appearance of bias., and/or the risk that a decision looks biased. This apparently broader test allows a biased decision to be overturned without the need to male any awkward findings of fact about the allegedly biased judge being biased, a high hurdle, when the easier route is to find the appearance of bias.
Consider Lord Hoffman, who sat in on Pinochet’s appeal despite being a company director of a company that was part of Amnesty International’s operations, when Amnesty were ‘interveners’ in the appeal. He failed to disclose this, and voted on the case, but was not impeached. His judgment however, did not stand, as he gave the appearance of bias.
And BTW Amnesty for years had a racist policy of not letting you report on a country that you were a citizen of, until this was declared race discrimination.
Mr ED–R U taking the piss?
I am fairly certain that you are –but with the morass of scummy lawdogs that confound and abuse this benighted planet you can never quite be sure.
There is no appearance of anything. “Appearance” clearly yields to obvious uranium-plated fact. The bias has already been brazenly stated before any so-called decision has yet even been formally asked for.
Mr Ecks,
I am merely pointing out how the law works and the wondrous way that a judge can be outrageously biased in practice, and yet get away with it if sibling judges are ‘unpersuaded’ that real bias existed in the judge’s mind, whilst conveniently for the wronged party, they can actually overturn the ‘biased’ decision for appearances’ sake, without having to make awkward judgment calls and find any ‘real’ bias. 😉 This aspect, what lawyers call an ‘escape route’ existing, is something I hadn’t realised until I read your post. I just thought of the test as two stages. I now see the scope for judges to look after their brethren, but lest confodence in the law be damaged, it is surely a ‘happy accident’.
Of course, judges can fairly say that they cannot be ‘mind readers’ and know what an allegedly biased judge was really thinking, except in the most blatant cases of course. Yet, oddly, the same judges will happily apply the concept of ‘unconscious discrimination‘ to find someone’s real thoughts if they are a ‘discriminator’, thoughts that the person concerned may not realise that they have had.
Move along now, nothing to see here, move along. I am sure that the good Lord Justice will address any issues of bias or apparent bias of his own motion before hearing any appeal, and make an appropriate finding. His own motion will be his judgment. Will Mr Robinson’s own lawyers raise the issue? I won’t hold my breath.
I was hoping you were taking the piss Mr Ed.
However that load of improbable horseshit won’t fly this time . It will just put the state into an even more bad odour.
Mr Ecks,
If Leveson does not recuse himself, it would be a clear sign to me that the rule of law has finally died.
The Canadian National Post has two good articles on the subject
– And the rest of the Canadian Press is handling it like they did Climategate – not at all until forced, and then very, very reluctantly. The Gravy Train for journalists over here is a nice, pensionable job with the CBC, and the Conservatives – who the J.T. Liberals pushed out-of-office last election – have a sworn vendetta against the CBC; if the Con’s get back in next election, it’ll be a bloodbath.
This is gonna’ be SO good! J.T.’s ‘apology’ over the groping matter was so perfectly Liberal – I quote: “I wouldn’a done it if I’d known you were a reporter…”
Trudeau…another Lib suffering from their inherent and genetic selective memory disorder. Don’t they all? 😆
Et tu, Poutine?
I do not have a heart of stone. Sorry (not sorry).
Sadly, the Federal Tories might act like they have a vendetta against the CBC, but when push comes to shove, they bow down before it just like the UK Tories and the BBC.
Maybe it’s the initials – I recall that the other Liberal J.T. – John Turner – also had a slight problem controlling his hands when in company of ladies in tight dresses…
The alleged victim has made a short statement about the incident, Mr Trudeau did not say in response anything remotely like ‘You’ll have to prise that pussy from my warm, groping hands‘ but rather:
Quite.