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Samizdata quote of the day Labour really is circling the drain, the obsession with JEWS is like late senile dementia settling in, and there ain’t anyway back from that. So much so, it’s time to figure out what opposition politics in Britain will look like. UKIP might or might not disintegrate but all those voters will still be there: if it does blow up completely, something will fill the void. If it doesn’t, then that’s probably the core around which Her Majesty’s Opposition will coalesce. But it’s looking more and more likely that won’t be Labour, because it’s coming close to the point someone needs to stick a fork in ’em because they’re done, just another hate group loony tunes fringe party.
– Samizdata commenter ‘Marcher’
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What we really need now is a general election, not just to knacker Labour, but also to provide the impetus to deselect a whole bunch of Tory MPs 👿
I would agree with Mr. de Havilland provided we could get enough Tories with at least a basic knowledge of science and economics. Listening to our current bunch, there seems to be little of either.
A general election now would just play into the hands of he remainers, it would just degenerate into a second referendum, and with FFTP instead of direct democracy it would probably win.
Like all things before it; the poll tax, the congestion charge, recycling, eventually people just get use to the change, best to let it lie as long as possible and wait until article 50 is invoked, just a little more time and a little more rope for the Labour Party, always worth it.
Labour still have a genuinely large following, and without a viable alternative they could still get in.
Nah if it had been FFTP, the figures show LEAVE would have exterminated REMAIN, so no way do Labour benefit. And Labour have NEVER been this weak. The Tories could run a ham sandwich for MP in lots of marginals if the election was tomorrow and still beat Labour. And there’s still the effect of redistricting to consider, which double fucks Labour.
If election was held before the end of the year, I reckon Tories would end up with a 50-60 seat majority, easy.
Yes and there is that 😎
The odd thing about Labour is that it has never had a bigger mass membership, whilst at the same time being more divorced from the mass of society.
It is as if the election of Jeremy Corbyn has encouraged every extreme left winger to break cover and join Labour, whilst in the past they might have been happier in Class War or the Socialist Workers’ Party. They have all come out into the open now, about 600,000 of them. The good news is that must be all that there are. Any leftist who does not support Labour now must be really off the scale of left wing ideological lunacy.
So at least we now know our enemy. Six hundred thousand of them. It’s good to know that there are so few, just one percent of the population. The support of the other 99% is up for grabs.
I’m famous! But does that mean the clock on my 15 minutes is already ticking? Fuck, fuck,fuck! 😎
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I think the mechanics of an early election are the problem.
Under the fixed term Parliament act there are three ways to bring it about
Repeal the act. Expect this to take a long time.
A two thirds majority in the commons. Would require the support of somewhere about 100 opposition MPs- seems unlikely.
A vote of no confidence. I can’t imagine a government proposing a vote of no confidence in itself.
Maybe a motion to get on with clause 50 implementation could be linked to a confidence vote if May needs to go that way.
Everyone voting against would have to explain something to their constituency committee, and would be at risk of losing their seat. Might be a few less Tory remainders standing, and a few less elected.
On the present polls May would get a handsome majority, especially if the opposition had opposed Brexit.
An early election would be a distraction that would delay invoking article 50. Further, the new Parliament could avoid invoking article 50 without consequences for 5 years. If another reason is needed, here it is: after the election, Labour would get a new leader and might regain support.
OTOH they would lose the Jewish vote. (Sorry about that, but given the subject of the OP i could not resist.)
Labour won’t disappear until another party emerges which represents the parasite interest. There are waay too many people living off the state teat – not just welfare but public sector and quango jobs – for Labour to dip consistently below 30%. In Scotland the SNP neatly replaces Labour as the true voice of the parasite community, but in England UKIP hardly fits the bill, and the Lib Dems and Greens are just middle class angst societies. Labour will stick around, however looney the leadership.
If the Tories had balls and sense they would identify where these people worked and ensure that state funding to these places was severely curtailed. I bet hardly any of them are in the private sector.
“Labour won’t disappear until another party emerges which represents the parasite interest.”
All of the parties are usually involved in a bidding war for their affections, so the parasites can rest easy. They’ll never be alone.
Labour will bounce back faster than you think. Look at the 2008-2010 Republicans in the US, or the 2011-15 Liberals in Canada. The lefty socialist-squish crowd is not going away, nor is the 48% of the population that voted Bremain because they think the other 52% are a bunch of racist jerks. My bet is that when Corbyn leaves, Labour’s new leader wins the next election, because the Tories will have gotten too cocky and corrupt by then.
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Labour might get a new leader after an election. It’s likely to anyway. But it won’t be anyone that appeals to the country at large, it’ll be someone that appeals to the 600,000 mentioned above. More competent, but if anything less appealing.
Alsadius–Forget your 48% remain fantasies.
Most remain support was from “status-quo/better the devil you know” thinkers. Many of them will have been sickened by the anti-democratic antics of the Remainiac scum. As the EU continues to die the Remain numbers are and will continue to dwindle.
The hardcore of the remain vote is 1+million well-off, middle/upper class cultural Marxist London Bubble scum. With possibly some /most of ZaNu ‘s 600,000 new chums.
I don’t agree with the commenter “Marcher”. The Labour represents what is learned today in most of the media starting with The Guardian, in school, etc…
They wont go away, face the fact that a ten million British citizens are full core Marxists with anti freedom and antisemitism that it entails. Lucky if will not get worse.
Utter bollocks. The primary reason people voted REMAIN was because they feared the economic impact of leaving the EU. It was not a cultural vote for most people who voted REMAIN.
Not really, you need to get out more. What the snowflakes who write for the Guardian think is not what most people think (to wit: Brexit).
Get out more?
Many of Brexiter votes were done because of The Guardian ideas exposed all days of the year. The Guardian voted against Brexit because of anti immigrant context. If the context was a sort of Venezuelan Brexit they would have voted in favor.
The Labour Party is much like the left in the United States – it sees Israel (and Jews in general) as “capitalist exploiters” of the noble Third World Proletarian “Palestinians”.
The “Alt Right” (the pro Nazi crowd – such as that self hating Jew Paul Gottfried) are much the same in their opinions of Israel and so on – they also blame the Second World War on Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt rather than Adolf Hitler. And so, tragically, do the Rothbardian libertarians.
As for the rest of British politics – UKIP is indeed imploding, and the Liberal Democrats (the branch office of the E.U.) do not seem to be prospering – but there is a by election coming and we will know better then.
Room for a new political party? None I am afraid – political parties are easy to create, but incredibly difficult to make going-concerns.
That leaves the Conservative and Unionist Party.
Sadly presently controlled by people like Philip Hammond – who assumes that because he is personally rich he “must” understand economics (an idea that could have been taken from Donald Trump), in reality Mr Hammond knows nothing (nothing at all) about economic policy. All that can be said for him is that he is not George Osborne (who also know nothing – but also had a irritating manner). Wild deficit spending – and a Credit Bubble monetary and financial system (thanks to Mark Carney of the Bank of England).
Then there is Chris Greyling – who thinks that HS2 is a good idea.
Enough said.
Anyone dumb and/or wicked enough to have voted Labour in the past is unlikely to be put off now by anti-Semitism or an obsession with Jews.
You might as well say that the Jamestown massacre mass suicide wouldn’t have happened had those socialists been a teeny bit more focused on hating Israel rather than idolising the USSR.