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Venezuela – a role model for the man probably going to be the next leader of Her Majesty’s Official Opposition“When we celebrate, and it is a cause for celebration, the achievements of Venezuela, in jobs, in housing , in health, in education, but above all its role in the whole world as a completely different place, then we do that because we recognise what they have achieved.” (For those who haven’t been on Samizdata before, this posting is designed to highlight the vileness of this man, not to imply approval.) September 10th, 2015 |
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Corbyn probably isn’t vile, just utterly deluded and convinced of the wonders of socialism.
The Guardian’s Cif columns are full of such people, probably all doing reasonable jobs as teachers, council ‘officers’ and polytechnic lecturers. They won’t be vile people but they live in a dream world, insulated from any reality outside their comfy existence.
But when they get power in the real world, and try to turn their dream into a reality, they can turn vile pretty quickly. It’s all for the greater good, you see.
It’s the deluded idealists who do the most damage not the clear-eyed and cynical.
It’s not possible to be intelligent, honest, and communist at the same time. Ergo, Corbyn is not honest.
Irrespective of the chaos deluded fools like Corbyn might create, it is not them who will cop it because special rules apply to them. What is odd is how people like him attract support from people who will suffer.
The one good thing about Mr Corbyn is that his evil (and I use the word “evil” deliberately) is so obvious.
No one voting for Mr Corbyn can honestly claim “I did not know”.
“He just wants socialism – he does not want the killings”.
No – not so.
He a personal friend of many terrorist movement, and tyrannical socialist regime, leaders – around the world.
He knows what they are – he knows what they do.
Mr Corbyn is not some Robert Owen style socialist.
But it should be celebrated, just as he says.
‘ . . . all its role in the whole world as a completely different place, then we do that because we recognise what they have achieved.’
After all, it takes some doing to take a nation that has the world’s largest proven reserves of oil, and which is the 11th-largest oil producer in the world, and, in an era of historically-high oil prices, reduce it to a third world hell-hole, where its citizens have to wait in endless lines for meagre supplies of the most basic staples and the currency has been inflated to the level of toilet-paper. Which, it is just as well . . . .
From a formerly-peaceful and rapidly-developing nation, to the world’s highest murder rate, rampant crime of all kinds, massive and endemic smuggling of just-about everything, and relations perilously-close to war with several of its neighbours – that is a giant stride.
Yes, it is an amazing achievement, made all-the-more-so by the fact that it was done by not just one leader, but was actually maintained and even expanded by his successor. It is truly remarkable, and should be a lesson to us all.
But not, I think, in the way that Mr Corbyn thinks it should.
llater,
llamas
Corbyn has also been a regular at the Argentine embassy where he has given support to their Malvinas aspirations. So much for the democratic rights of the Falkland Islanders and so much for that so-called sovereignty claim: https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
Does this concentration on one individual indicate the possibility of a parliamentary (rather than electoral) fragmentation of what has been the Labour Party?
That refers, of course, to comparisons of those conditions which existed when “parties” were groups of interests within Parliament, rather than among the electorate.
Is there a “Corbyn” constituency within Parliament?
Just asking.
I think I can see why people like Corbyn praise tropical countries with large hotels, lovely beaches and (probably) free meals.
Indeed. Without ongoing real-world examples of the utter failure of socialism like Venezuela, our own socialist demagogues would presumably be able to muster an even bigger mob of useful idiots than they already do.
Does Mr Corbyn have a daughter?
Is she spry?
Not asking for any reason you know…..
Well maybe Im just stunned by her good…OH GOD SHE USES HER FACE TO MAKE GORILLA BISCUITS!!!
http://panampost.com/editor/2015/08/26/chavezs-daughter-is-filthy-rich-and-that-shouldnt-be-a-surprise/
The alleged fortune of María Gabriela Chávez, daughter of the late Hugo Chávez, has recently stirred up controversy in Venezuela. Media reports suggest that Chávez’s daughter has US$4.2 billion stored in bank accounts in the United States and Andorra, which might make her the wealthiest person in Venezuela.
llamas — indeed. 🙁
Johnathan — disgusting. One would think it obvious that to celebrate the “achievements” of Venezuela is to celebrate similar such in the U.S.S.R., in Maoist China, even in Castro’s Cuba.
There are only two possibilities that I can see: If the man is not vile, he is a lunatic. The same would go for his supporters, and for anyone anywhere who even comes close to sharing his opinion.
In sum, What llamas Said.
Speaking of Cuba, note especially the photo at the top.
http://panampost.com/luis-henrique-ball/2015/05/06/you-will-not-like-cuba/
As Paul Marks has previously mentioned, Nick Griffin supports Jeremy Corbyn. Griffin is nothing if not consistent 😉
If Labour does NOT choose Corbyn, what is the next person like? Is there much difference?
Venezuela has jailed an opposition leader, which suggests that if Jezzbolla praises Venezuela’s socialist regime, he is fine and dandy with a one-party state.
Nicholas, one other likely candidate is Yvette Cooper, wife of Ed Balls, think a young Gordon Brown in a skirt.
I strongly recommend that Mr Corbyn be dropped in the centre of Caracas without any of the trappings of the “revolutionary” leaders of Venezuela (armoured car, bodyguards, 5 star accommodation etc.) and told to make do for a few weeks.
Oh look!
Should we chuck Corbyn in jail the moment he becomes leader of the opposition?
thefrollickingmole linked :
‘The alleged fortune of María Gabriela Chávez, daughter of the late Hugo Chávez, has recently stirred up controversy in Venezuela. Media reports suggest that Chávez’s daughter has US$4.2 billion stored in bank accounts in the United States and Andorra, which might make her the wealthiest person in Venezuela.’
“Comrades!’ he cried. ‘You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eat those apples.”
llater,
llamas
Remember South Africa where ex President Mbeki chose Jacob Zuma as his deputy precisely because he was obviously unsuitable presidential material, who then toppled him…..corbyn should be kept away from the wheels of power and also probably the knife drawer and scissors.
Ljh, good point. I would not put Jezbollah near heavy machinery; mind you, the Marxist cunt has never done a serious stroke of work in his life, so I doubt he know how to use a hammer, sickle, or anything else.
Quite so Perry – and if one listens to what the “Stop the War Coalition” (headed by Mr Corbyn) chant about “the Jews” one knows all one needs to know about this person.
Does he have to chant such things himself?
Doe he have to go around breaking shop windows personally?
Sorry people but “Mr Corbyn is misguided, but he is a decent man at heart…..” just will not do.
He is not decent man, he is a bad man.
It will be interesting to see if Mr Corbyn can manage to play the role of the democratic leader of the Labour party. He is clearly from a political point of view that tends to see opposition as evil and wrong, and therefore as something that has to be dealt with however. His own temprament may be a bit less dictatorial than many left-wing leaders – reputedly he only stood because someone from the left-wing of the Labour party had to do so (in their view) and no-one volunteered, with the two most domineering figures available (both of whom might be dictatorial) having stood at the last two elections – so this may mitigate the tendencies to act in a way that confuses being opposed and being attacked, but I can’t see these tendencies failing to show themselves at all. He may speak of unity (note, not compromise) but I feel that Mr Corbin will pretty soon be in a position where he strikes out at internal opponents, not least because his many idiotic supporters will demand he do so.
A man without good sense or judgement (see his stance on Venuzalia, or Hamas, or… well, just see all his stances – he got divorced over his son going to a decent school for God’s sake!) with a crowd of suddenly jubilant faux-radicals (I am not sure how spouting 1970s socialism is really radical) at his back is hardly going to be able to be a democratic leader unless he somehow gets some very good advisors. And if your best hope for good advise is Tom Watson, then you may have a problem.
@frollickingmole Good article. Saw a link to this one on the same site:
http://panampost.com/carlos-sabino/2015/02/16/socialism-is-misery-and-i-should-know/
‘Is there a “Corbyn” constituency within Parliament?’
The odd thing is that Corbyn has very little following within the Parliamentary Labour Party itself. Most MPs think he’s a cock, and know that there are several reasons why he has been a backbencher for all of his 32 years as Member for Islington North.
Indeed he was only nominated thanks to MPs (notably Margaret Beckett, Frank Field and David Lammy) who said that they didn’t back him, but just wanted the ‘widen the debate’ in a field contested by a Brownite (Cooper), a Blairite (Kendall) and an Opportunisticshite (Burnham). When he got nominated, the expectation was that he’d get nowhere. Even Diane Abbott (one of his few allies in the PLP) said he’d have no chance of winning.
All in, as decisions go, it’s something historically similar to the ‘Hey, you know that Koba? Why don’t we make him Party Secretary’ moment that the Old Bolsheviks had. Hopefully, with much less bloodshed.
I don’t get it. Why do they still call themselves ‘Labour’ when they no longer support UK workers with their policies?
I accuse the commenter “llamas” of having been reading subversive books again.
I have a terrible moral dilemma. Should Yvette Cooper win, her husband Ed Balls would be sick with jealousy and revulsion at the thout of being the next Denis Thatcher. Is that Schadenfreude compensation enough for the horrors of another Labour government, offset against relief that Mr Corbyn would not be in line for the keys to No. 10?