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Samizdata quote of the day In Britain in the 21st century you can be punished for mocking gods. You can be expelled from the kingdom, frozen out, if you dare to diss Allah. Perversely adopting medieval Islamic blasphemy laws, modern Britain has made it clear that it will tolerate no individual who says scurrilous or reviling things about the Islamic god or prophet. Witness the authorities’ refusal to grant entrance to the nation to the alt-right Christian YouTuber Lauren Southern. Her crime? She once distributed a leaflet in Luton with the words ‘Allah is gay, Allah is trans, Allah is lesbian…’, and according to the letter she received from the Home Office informing her of her ban from Britain, such behaviour poses a ‘threat to the fundamental interests of [British] society’.
This is a very serious matter and the lack of outrage about it in the mainstream press, not least among those who call themselves liberal, is deeply disturbing.
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If the whites, Sikhs, Hindus of the UK don’t realise that they are being thrown to the Islamic wolves they’re not paying attention.
“…such behaviour poses a ‘threat to the fundamental interests of [British] society’.”
Since a significant minority of Muslims are inclined to turn violent at the slightest provocation I would suggest that this statement is fairly accurate. The problem is that the powers that be would rather impose a ban on an easy target than deal robustly with the violent ones.
One question is, why are gods always thought of as being afraid of people who point out that they don’t exist?
I’m confused. Is there something wrong with being gay? If not then there was no insult to Allah. If so shouldn’t we be stopping gay pride events?
Pat – it was in response to a campaign from “Vice” (yet another “alternative” news outlet that turns out to be just as leftist as the rest of the “mainstream media”) that Jesus was Gay.
Lauren decided to conduct a social experiment – if it is O.K. to say that Jesus is Gay, is it O.K. to say that Allah is Gay?
The British government (using the police as puppets – Kent police really have better things to, it was Home Secretary Amber Rudd who is behind the political persecution, Amber Rudd is actually worse than Theresa May) has declared that saying (even as a joke) that “Allah is Gay” is a RACIST statement. Islam is a “race” according to our government.
“But Paul the government is made up of highly educated people”.
No it is made up of EXPENSIVELY educated people – not the same thing at all. They are not educated in the traditional sense of that word – they really know very little (about anything), which is why they think being opposed to Islam is “racist” and think that Free Speech does not cover “Hate Speech” and support “Social Justice” (they say so in their speeches – repeatedly) without actually knowing what “Social Justice” means.
Our media are State puppets
Presumably unlike a group of people led by Theresa May, formerly in direct charge of the Home Office IIRC, and now in overall charge of it and the other departments. I suppose the Home Office officials involved could argue that their own very existence and ability to act in the way they do defends May from any such charge.
Never mind: the dhimmis can be gay for now, provided they remember they are free to make life hell for any Christian bakers they can find but they’re the PC wokeness that dare not speak its name whenever the faithful walk by. Intersectionality theory will explain to them their ranking in the PC pecking order. In that precise case, I could imagine moderating my sympathy, but when one of the characters in LotR wishes that Saruman and Sauron could fight it out directly, without the good guys getting in the way, he is warned, “The victor would emerge stronger than either and free from doubt.”
It’s not like Lauren went to the limit by any means. Anyone remember the, uh, “artwork” piss-christ – whose sole ability to raise the outrage it sought was when a couple of bishops said it was ‘tasteless’ (rather a forgiving adjective, I thought – in more ways than one 🙂 ).
Remember the Rushdie affair.
And the Charlie Hebdo massacre.
Threats and violence do work.
Well, if they let people speak their mind who knows where it could lead? It’s hard enough keeping the grooming quiet – no?
Niall,
I have been an avid student of LotR for lo! these 52+ years, but somehow I missed that quote. Xclnt! Und Denks! :>)
I always find it funny when someone who wants stronger border controls has troubles crossing a border. Seems fitting, somehow.
You can want smarter border controls and still be victimized by stupid border controls. Ironic, maybe, but not fitting.
Britain, like the rest of Western Europe, has chosen the form of their Destructor. Those who imagine that they will remain in power should consider the fate of the secular Muslims who supported the overthrow of the Shah of Iran. But they won’t, because they’re so much smarter. Their credentials and all their peers say so.
The British are losing their civilisation. Through rot, neglect, and sheer head-in-sand obliviousness.
Can this downward trend be reversed? I think not. So far the only thing that even smacked of a reversal of fate was Brexit, but even that short victory may turn out to be a false one.
Julie near Chicago (March 15, 2018 at 10:57 pm), the exact quote is in the first volume of the Two Towers IIRC and it is either “stronger than either” or “stronger than both”. Work forbids the storng temptation I am under to reread it (to check the quote of course, not from any idle indulgence 🙂 ) but if anyone can check whether it is ‘either’ or ‘both’, by all means tell me.
Tolkien wrote the line during WWII, and sometime after summer 1941, when the idea of just letting Hitler and Stalin get on with it must sometimes have occurred to people.
P486 in my dusty version, The White Rider. Gandalf has returned as the White, there is a discussion about the treason of Saruman. The quote has Gandalf finishing, saying:
Of course what the Home Office really means is that Muslims are a danger to society, ‘best not get them riled up.
How is it though, that everyone else is supposed to give reverence to the Muslims and their feelings and their religious beliefs but yet they are not required to acquiesce to anything? How is it that the Muslims have free reign to hate Jews, hate gays, hate trans, without condemnation from anyone? Yet if I even say that their views are problematic, that is, I’m standing up for the rights of individuals, somehow that makes me “racist”, as if Islam is a race.
By the way, there are more non-arab Muslims in the world than there are Arab Muslims so, pray tell, what race is Islam?
You should add cowardice. Every society has rampant cowardice, which is why bravery and courage is considered a noble virtue and uncommon. Is a common characteristic of leftist thinking that they want the non accomplished, those who have lacked achievement in their lives, to be on equal status to everyone else, to their betters. And even at times to lead them. We see this stupidity today in America with the idea that school children understand complicated issues like gun control better than grown experts.
Why? Because feelz of course. Idiots confuse feelings with wisdom and prudence.
I find it funny when people can’t tell the difference between visiting and conquering/colonising a country.
“If someone does something that isn’t a criminal offence but the victim, or anyone else, believes it was motivated by prejudice or hate, we would class this as a ‘hate incident’. Though what the perpetrator has done may not be against the law, their reasons for doing it are. This means it may be possible to charge them with an offence.”
Blasphemy laws and the police state are already here.
I strongly urge all Samizdata readers in London to attend the free speech rally this Sunday at 15:00 at Speaker’s Corner! Regardless of your views on Tommy Robinson, free speech needs to be defended, this has gone past the point of being passive citizen
If Lauren Southern is “alt right” then the term is almost meaningless – as just about everyone who is not part of the Frankfurt School of Marxism would be “alt right”.
A better example would be the members of “Britain First” who have been put in prison for expressing their opinions. “Britain First” does have some state control “Fascist” elements in its economic program – I am AGAINST Britain First, but their being put in prison for their opinions is EVIL.
“But I do not understand” would say the establishment – “if you are opposed to the opinions of the Britain First people, why do you object to them being put in prison?”
THAT is why our civilisation is doomed Perry de Havilland – because the establishment do not understand (sincerely do not understand – they are not pretending to not understand, they really do not understand) that putting people in prison for “hate speech” is evil. It is not just Mr Corbyn – it is his “liberal” and “conservative” opponents as well. They all nod with approval at the sight of people being put in prison for their words – for their beliefs. Just as they all make impossible promises of wild government spending on just about everything.
Indeed the establishment (all of it) have a lot in common with the wild promises (homes for all, more benefits, more public services, more…..) that “Britain First” itself makes.
In economic terms – they are all SEMI Fascists (not just “Britain First” – the establishment as well). They all believe in making private business enterprises do what the government wants them to do – by passing laws and giving orders. And they all believe in government spending to finance all the basic functions of life. They may not be formal Fascists in economic policy – but that is the logical end point of their line of policy.
And, as you know Perry, Fascism does not work. True they are not National Socialists (the do not believe in exterminating certain ethnic groups), Fascism is not National Socialism – but Fascism still does not work.
The establishment is by no means permanent – it is subject to change, and in fact is undergoing just such a change in many places. But more importantly, its actual ties to civilization are at best tenuous.