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Mark Andreessen on Joe Rogan

There are many good Joe Rogan podcasts and this week’s episode with Mark Andreessen as the guest (opens Spotify if you have it) is right up there among them. I have to confess I didn’t know who Mark Andreessen was beforehand and I didn’t know who he was afterwards. Something in the Valley I guess but what he had to say – assuming it’s true of course – was dynamite. Government persecution of crypto, AI and anyone else it didn’t like. The government making Americans fat. Isn’t it odd how the health bureaucrats all look so unhealthy? I’m not sure about that one to be honest. Further research needed. Also, the importance of Elon Musk in not only giving us normies a voice but also the tech sector.

14 comments to Mark Andreessen on Joe Rogan

  • Michael Gillespie

    Andreessen is the founder of Netscape, the world’s first commercial web browser. If there is a founder of modern Silicon Valley (software rather than hardware-centric) it’s him.

  • bobby b

    Andreessen is someone to whom one should listen.

    I think he was also one of the founding investors in Twitter.

  • Snorri Godhi

    The government making Americans fat.

    Duh! I don’t mean to be rude, but why don’t you tell us something we don’t know?

  • Stonyground

    No personal responsibility involved then?

  • Fred_Z

    Sarah Hoffman, former health minister for a since defeated socialist government of the Province of Alberta Canada, was morbidly obese while in office.

    Wasn’t there another female fatty government health nazi in the EU somewhere?

    https://tinyurl.com/4rpp2vsp

  • Martin

    Thérèse Coffey was Health minister in Liz Truss’ ill-fated government, despite being very obese and overall very unhealthy.

  • Snorri Godhi

    Fred Z: please note that the link is broken.

    — WRT personal responsibility, this is a subject for intelligent debate, of the sort that happens sometimes (not all the time) on Samizdata.

    When the medical establishment (MedEs) recommends a low-fat, high-carb diet (or worse, a low-saturated fat, high carb AND seed oil diet) can you really blame the people for their metabolic syndromes?

    One could argue that it’s your own fault if you follow MedEs advice, and i am not inclined to argue against that.

    On the gripping hand… what if following MedEs advice makes people too dumb to decide whether MedEs advice is sound? (And there is some evidence that it is so.)
    Can you blame people for being dumb through no fault of their own?

    As i said, i have no definite answers. There is room for debate.

  • Stonyground

    Ten years ago the official NHS line was to recommend a low fat high carb diet even to diabetics. Fortunately the specialist nurses and the folk on the Diabetes UK online forum were better informed.

  • bobby b

    Stonyground
    December 1, 2024 at 10:18 am

    “No personal responsibility involved then?”

    For decades, if someone took personal responsibility for their own health, and did the research into how he should eat, what he’d find was a government-sanctioned Food Pyramid and set of recs that was pretty much backwards.

    I think that, given what we now know, continuing on using that same gov information today would be irresponsible, but during most all those years of fattening up when no one knew better, it was a reasonable – if wrong – choice.

  • Wasn’t there another female fatty government health nazi in the EU somewhere?

    @Fred_Z – I suspect you are thinking of Belgian Health Minister Maggie De Block. She’s hard to miss, even with Radar.

  • Stonyground

    Since humans are omnivores, I always thought that making your diet as varied as possible made a lot of sense. That way, if there is any food that really is bad for you then you only consume it in moderation while, at the same time, having the best chance of getting a bit of everything that might be essential for good nutrition.

    Where I used to work we had an admin office full of women who were forever wibbling on about their diets. I once trained for and did an ironman triathlon. A training manual that I had included a chapter on nutrition and I found it amusing to tell them all about the ironman diet which involved stuffing down huge quantities of protein, carbohydrates and fat on a daily basis. And you still lose weight it’s brilliant, yes of course there’s a catch.

  • Deep Lurker

    I’ve long believed that the low-fat, high-carb, and “cholesterol and saturated fats are EVIL!” recommendations were pushed by Population Bomb of Doom preachers who wanted to put the uppity peasants on a low-meat or no-meat diet without provoking an immediate backlash. Ostensibly to “Save The Planet” and actually to polish their tyrant-boners the way they believed their tyrant-boners deserved to be polished.

  • Paul Marks

    Interesting – both the post and the comments.

  • Rainer

    Yes, very interesting comments.
    Especially the lack of pointing out that, what Andreessen described the government people saying, amounts to full-blown fascism. It fits the very definition of fascism – government control of the economy. From the set of people accusing their opposition of being fascists. No surprise.
    I very much would like to know who exactly were Andreessen’s conversation partners.

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