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Words of comfort The United Nations Human Rights Council:
“On Monday afternoon, the @UN Human Rights Council observed a moment of silence for the loss of innocent lives in the occupied Palestinian territory and elsewhere.”
Perhaps I should regard it as a miracle and wonder that this august body got as far as implying that murdered Israelis might be included, albeit not by name, in the “miscellaneous” category of those entitled to human sympathy.
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If there was ever a time for the United States and Britain to stop funding the UN and ask them to leave New York, this seems to be the time.
Here’s hoping that the “occupied” Palestinian territory is moved to Jordan.
For balance, to the USA residents here:
We lost almost 3000 people on 9/11, to an impersonal airplane attack. As a result, we laid waste to a large part of the ME.
If you do the math, comparing proportional populations, what happened in Israel is as if we in the US had lost 25,000 people to an in-person, slaughter-each-one-individually-and-film-it-for-fun terrorist attack.
I can only imagine what’s going to happen. I can only hope.
I think it’s utterly useless to expect the UN to come down on the right and moral side of anything. It is, after all, composed of all the world’s finest humanitarians and “concerned” people.
Whatever they expected from the UN, when they founded it? We ain’t getting it. Unless it was for another useless international debating society.
My take on it? Abolish the damn thing, and give the land back to the people they appropriated it from, originally.
I don’t think the Israelis are going to manage dealing with this latest set of outrages effectively. They’re already being incredibly stupid, and warning the Arabs before bombing them. Did they get warning from the Arabs, before this attack? Is this some sort of Medieval tourney, with rules and such?
It ain’t, and you don’t win wars like that. Gaza should be mostly flat, by now, and most of its parasitical occupants should be under the rubble. Those that aren’t should be on the beaches, trying to figure out how long they can tread water.
That’s precisely what the Arabs would do to every Israeli, if they had the means.
Breakdown of UN General Assembly Resolutions criticising individual countries in 2022:-
15 Israel
6 Russia
1 Myanmar
1 North Korea
1 Afghanistan
1 Iran
1 Syria
1 USA (still really pissed about that “Cuba embargo”).
They’re certainly United in one respect.
Obviously it’s not just the General Assembly.
Since the UNHRC’s creation in 2006, it has resolved almost as many resolutions condemning Israel alone than on issues for the rest of the world combined.
Breakdown of UN General Assembly Resolutions criticising individual countries in 2022:-
15 Israel
6 Russia
1 Myanmar
1 North Korea
1 Afghanistan
1 Iran
1 Syria
1 USA (still really pissed about that “Cuba embargo”).
They’re certainly United in one respect.
Obviously it’s not just the General Assembly.
Since the UNHRC’s creation in 2006, it has resolved almost as many resolutions condemning Israel alone than on issues for the rest of the world combined.
You’d really think by now they’d have worked out where “and elsewhere” is.
Yes the United Nations, and the rest of the organs of the International Community, supports evil. They are evil, and their plans – such as Agenda 21 – Agenda 2030, are evil. This means that their supporters, which include most Western governments, should not be trusted.
As for the civilian population of the Gaza Salient (look on a map, it is a salient – and a totally unacceptable one) they should peacefully relocate to the various nations of the Islamic world.
I remind people that Gaza was made “Jew free” many years ago (by the Israeli government – who removed all Jews – by force), the people who demand a “Palestinian State” – Gaza was that state, and this is how they choose to behave, and they have behaved like this for many years. The Gaza Salient must now be ended – and the Islamic population must relocate to other Islamic countries, the water should be cut off till they peacefully relocate via Egypt – which has a border with the Gaza area.
I watched the military correspondent of the Daily Telegraph on G.B. News – sadly the well meaning Gentleman does not have a clue. He was still talking of “avoiding civilian casualties”, “the war is with Hamas, not with ordinary people” and-so-on. The way to avoid civilian casualties is to get the civilian population out of the Gaza Salient – to end the existence of the unacceptable salient (again – look at a map, it can not stay), but I suspect that the well meaning Gentleman from the Daily Telegraph would be horrified by the suggestion.
If Israel finally does what needs to be done, what should have been done in 1967, Israel will be condemned by all the governments of the world – including the British government.
The American government will cut off aid – O.K., let them do that. Anyone who has seen the endless “protests” in support of rule by unelected judges, “protests” that have CIA, and the rest of the Deep State, “op” written all over them, is sick of the American government, and of the International Community in general.
@bobby b
Well, Jordan is approximately 80% of Palestine. And, needless to say, judenrein by law.
What have you got against Jordanians that you want to force them to accept a horde of Palestinian rats with their never ending grievance-mongering?
Have you forgotten Black September?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
That ain’t gonna happen, simply because the Muslim nations of the Middle East will not accept Palestinian vermin, given all of the trouble they’ve caused in other countries since the creation of Israel (Jordan, Lebanon, etc.).
Secondly, the Palestinians in Gaza are effectively hostages that exist to provoke Israeli ire and when Hamas attacks from the heart of Gaza, get lovely photos of “Israeli atrocities” for exclusive worldwide distribution.
The only way Gaza will be cleared is if the Israelis do the clearing. Good and hard, which many of us are in favour of, but you know damn well that Hamas and those keeping the Palestinians trapped in Gaza will make immense political and PR capital out of any Israeli action, even though that would be a justified RE-ACTION to the attacks of recent days.
Israel will be portrayed by the biased Western media and Marxist talking shops like the U.N. as the aggressor anyway, so might as well go the whole hog, turn Gaza into a car park and at least resolve their own security situation.
The problem is they don’t seem to have the balls to do that anymore.
We need less Bibi and more Yonatan
John Galt is spot on. The rest of the Islamic ME love using the Palestinians as martyrs. They are useful uruks for their nefarious ends in that way. They don’t actually care for them – quite the reverse. The more that die, the better because they can milk more sympathy from lactating-hearts lefties.
“Palestinian” isn’t a nationality. It is though an “identity”. And we know where that winds up. It winds up with the villification of a children’s author by men in bad drag outfits.
Paul, I don’t think the US will end aid to Israel.They lost Iran, they’re losing Turkey. Shoddy Absurdia is a joke. The US needs an ally in the Middle East. Also most US aid to Israel is military funding which has to be spent on US stuff. It is not aid to Israel as much as aid to Lockheed-Martin and General Dynamics. You gotta give the US Congress it’s due for inventing the kosher pork-barrel. It will get through Congress not to support Israel but to keep peoples’s jobs that Reprensatives and Senators rely on for the voting.
In general. If Israel goes full Lt. Ellen Ripley then I have an appointment with a mohel…
“Proportionate” doesn’t win anything. It buys a truce at best.Don’t we know that by now?
John Galt – I respectfully disagree.
I am AGAINST the mass killing of Muslim civilians, and I believe if they were allowed to peacefully go into Egypt they government of Egypt would allow them to enter.
NickM – in spite of the ethnic origin of the American Secretary of State and the husband of K. Harris, I do not trust the American left – which dominates this Administration.
I hope I am mistaken – but I just do not trust this Administration.
The Egyptians would never agree to that. Because they don’t care (and they also don’t want a huge refugee problem). The more Gazan children die the better for Islamists. They love that. They are World-class shroud-waivers which is handy because they can do fuck-all else well.
You are of course entitled to your opinion Paul, but I personally think you’re not only wrong, but childishly naïve.
The longer this goes on the more will die on both sides, that ain’t sophistry, it’s transparently obvious. They’ve been back-and-forth on this with the Palestinians for 70 years without resolution.
Sure, negotiate with Egypt to accept women and children as refugees if that can be achieved (I suspect not, or at least not without Egypt getting lots of money from the US to act as a temporary holding camp to refugees)
As for the rest, Gaza needs to be flushed block-by-block, house-by-house and then demolished. Literally turned into a car park as a clear and emphatic statement by Israel that they will not tolerate the sort of terrorism put forward by Hamas.
This is an almost definitive example of “Fuck around and find out”.
John Galt – I may well be childishly soft, although this would come as news to “Central Office” who think I am a monster who eats babies for breakfast.
But I still want Muslim civilians to be evacuated from the Gaza Salient into Egypt – I do NOT want the Muslim women and children killed.
The words of Edmund Burke in relation to Warren Hastings apply – yes it is sometimes necessary to kill to survive in this fallen world, but we must not start copying Despots. If we copy monsters – we become monsters.
Paul,
I do think you’re naive here. I support your sentiment but any opening of the Gaza border will let things in as well as out. And we both know that’ll be weapons in boxes labelled “Medical Supplies”. We are looking at an evil that doesn’t even care about it’s own people. That is the hideous moral issue Israel faces. The way Hamas fights makes it almost impossible to not become a monster as well. That is how Hamas has stacked the deck. The sheer evil of just that is almost beyond comprehension.
The fact that aid to the Palestinians somehow became the funds to build an underground rocket factory for Hamas demonstrates that all good intentions towards the Palestinians will be perverted.
Deporting the Palestinians in Gaza elsewhere* stops them being used as human shields by Hamas, which is the sole purpose of the women and children being there. They are hostages, forced into a firing strip for the purposes of Trans-Arabism or some such bullshit.
Turning Gaza into a carpark prevents retaliation from within Israels territorial borders.
Then to deal with the West Bank, because I have no doubt that the carparkisation of Gaza would simply turn Hamas attention there.
* – anywhere outside Israel that will accept them
The only true fix to Gaza would be the residents rising and wiping out Hamas on their own. Any solution imposed from external power simply boots the ball down the road a bit, and leaves Israel facing what it just faced. Those residents could have done this at any time from 2005 onwards, but instead chose to support Hamas. They chose poorly.
@Bobby B – Yes, true, but then again, the Palestinians in Gaza are the closest human thing to “Turkeys that vote for Christmas”.
Time-and-again they play the role of compliant host to the latest Hamas atrocity, parading their dead kids in front of the nodding dog media and STILL not voting with their feet by leaving.
If it was me, I would literally build a boat and sail off that famous Gazan coast to pretty much anywhere but there. Better than sitting around until the next horror unfolds (as it inevitably does).
It’s about 300 miles from Gaza to Cypress. A few days rowing or with an improvised boat engine made out of a motor cycle engine and you’re home free. Literally.
If enough people just upped-and-left even the dogturd media might pay attention.
As we predicted.
My next prediction is that Biden et al start importing boatloads of Gazans into the US.
Anyone holding their breath waiting for anyone outside Israel to step up to the plate and volunteer to host Gazan Arabs is going to die of asphyxiation before it happens.
Although, the demonstrated stupidity of the Biden Krime Krewe might leave us all in a state of disappointment about “limits to human stupidity” not actually existing. Trudeau in Canada is another candidate for exploring the outer edge of the envelope…
I certainly ain’t holding my breath over anything.
It’s the Israelis problem. If the Palestinians in Gaza are going anywhere (even the Muslim after life, whatever that is), then it will be the Israelis arranging the passage.
No other country will voluntarily step up. Most of the Muslim ones have experience of Palestinian refugees and none of those experiences were good.
Even the West won’t be rushing forward to claim any, as they don’t mix well (or at all) with existing Jewish settlements as those in London and Paris are finding.