… simultaneously we have achieved peak insanity in the west with this:
I fear some sort of criticality is imminent.
Perhaps we need a “What the actual fuck?” category.
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‘Peak insanity’ is right.
Except that it might get worse tomorrow.
Less than 1/2 hour ago, i wrote:
More of the same, from some famous people:
https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1496864932884799498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1496864932884799498%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnotthebee.com%2Farticle%2Fthese-are-not-serious-people-check-out-all-the-woke-cultists-reactions-to-the-ukraine-invasion-
The stupidity demonstrated by this tweet is so dense that it is about to collapse into a black hole of idiocy.
What would they* regard as The United States of America’s greatest export?
Pronouns.
This is not a civilisation, it was until quite recently, but no more, it is now a technologically advanced Lord of the Flies society, where children have aged into adult bodies.
* exactly.
And when Chairman Xi decides to annex Taiwan … what intellectual gymnastics will she* contort herself* through in order to blame that on ‘white privilege’ too?
*(I’m assuming her pronouns here. Ooops. My bad.)
John Kerry was almost US President.
Here is how he reacted to Russia’s actions today:
Top men. Top.
More evidence why it’s impossible to like American culture these days lol.
A lot of Americans, mainly the working class/lower middle class ones who voted for Trump, are a fine bunch. American culture as a whole today though is a garbage heap.
Ms. Forsythe, what you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent Tweet were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on the Interwebs is now dumber for having seen it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You’ll just have to take my word that you’re only seeing woke progressive culture. That’s who gets to hold the microphone these days. But real American culture is just fine.
Do the Mongols count as “non white” – they conquered the Kiev Rus and slaughtered and oppressed the people there for centuries.
How about the Tartars – hard to say if they are “non white”, but they certainly had a different culture and they attacked the Ukrainians for centuries (they were forces of death – and of slavery for the survivors). Most old Ukrainian folk songs are about the wars with the Muslims – they sort of song that would get me expelled from the Conservative Party if I quoted the lyrics. But Islam is a religion – NOT a race.
As for blacks – well the Bantu speaking peoples are great Imperialists, they have expanded from central Africa over many centuries, replacing other racial/ethnic groups.
They had to expand – as their subsistence farming tended to drain the soil over time, meaning that they to take new lands (displacing the hunter-gatherers).
“White Supremacy will destroy us” – does Chairman Xi (leader of the most powerful industrial country on Earth – China) count as “white”?
Leading American universities think that Chinese people are white – and discriminate against them in favour of black people.
As for the United States – much normal discussion is forbidden, for example how many white people are killed by black people?
Just asking that question is “racist” – and attracts punishment.
As for black people who show intelligence, hard work, or intellectual honesty – they are denounced as “not really black” or “the black face of white supremacy”.
For some reason declaring that black people who achieve things or show any good traits are “not really black” is NOT considered “racist”.
Modern society has nothing but hatred for Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Candice Owens and any other black person who shows intelligence and judgement. Instead modern society idealises George Floyd and Janel Forsyth.
American institutions, including the military, are taught that such things as “hard work”, “belief in objective truth” and “preparing for the future” are “whiteness” – and, therefore, EVIL. Black people who show these traits are considered “traitors” to their race. And white people who show irrationality, laziness, lack of foresight, and lack of emotional control, are celebrated as “Allies”.
It should be pointed that these insane doctrines were not created by black people – they were created by WHITE Frankfurt School Marxists – and they KNEW these doctrines were insane when they created them.
The doctrines are a weapon – a weapon to turn various groups (blacks, Hispanics, women, homosexuals – and on and on) into enemies of “capitalist society”.
And “the capitalists” themselves?
If by “the capitalists” we mean Big Business (the Corporations) – they love all this, and do everything they can to push it.
Which is why I do not care about them any more.
Completely agree. Although I do like Ayn Rand’s novels I have always found her saying about big business being an oppressed minority a bit risible. Even in 1963 when she said it was pretty ludicrous (I remember reading that most of Eisenhower’s cabinet just a few years before were veterans of big business, for example). Now it’d be even more deluded to think that.
Paul,
I recall 30 years ago being shouted down for stating a very inconvenient truth about Zulus. In what is now South Africa the Dutch were there before the Zulus. The Bantus were imperialists plus-ultra. There were linguistic/ethnic groups displaced thousands of miles. But then this can’t be true (though it is) because only white people have ever built evil empires. Forget history and truth because that can’t be the case because critical race theory says, “No”.
NickM – 30 years ago it was indeed bad, but now it is worse.
Imagine a Professor of African History – 30 years ago they would “get away with” saying or writing what you just have. Now they would not – at least I do not think they would in most universities.
Martin – Big Business was not always “Woke”.
I am told it started to slip in the 1960s – but really started to gain power in the 1970s.
The BBC and so on pretend that Milton Friedman was inventing a “new” concept of the corporation when he argued they should be apolitical – but he was really defending the old idea of a corporation (or a trust) as an apolitical money making machine for the shareholders – who then made ethical decisions about the profits that went to them.
But from the 1970s onwards “Social Responsibility” (read Collectivist Social Justice) became more and more important in the “Business Schools” and so on.
Once American business was fairly conservative – socially and economically.
They have NOT always been the bunch of Wokesters they are now.
And how sincere their Wokness is – well that is another question.
As for Ayn Rand style heroes – they have always existed in business, they are real people, But they have always been a minority – most business types have been historically pragmatic (without a clear pro freedom philosophy).
But that is different from today – when Big Business actually helps along the DIE agenda, actively helps dig the grave of Western Civilisation.
“Which side on you on” asked a Gentleman on this site – I am on the side of liberty, and my problem with Woke Big Business is that it is actively helping snuff out liberty (digging its own grave in the process).
Technocracy, “public private partnership”, “Stakeholder Capitalism”, “Corporate State” (whatever you want to call it) – WILL NOT WORK.
I agree Paul. This was in particular one bullshit merchant in my six form. Now – I guess you’re right. But what I stated is true and not because “Whitey said so…” It is in the linguistics and stories and DNA of the peoples of a huge swathe of Africa. To deny this is to assert Africa was this great unified Edenic land until Europeans turned-up. Now that is racist if you ask me.
But further on this is off-point for this post – important though it may be.
Someone has been playing with their home lobotomy kit.
Russell Weatherly – yes indeed Sir, well put.
NickM.
Now the “bullshit merchants” have taken over – at least in some schools and universities.
I was at a school today and the Headmaster assured me that none of this was true in his school – which was still about mathematics and science, objective truth. And great classical literature – which had not been cancelled.
But he may have been telling an old fat Yid (me) what I wanted to hear.
But bless the man anyway (a man whose family came from Naples – one of the oldest great cities of the Western world) – I needed cheering up.
I wouldn’t have thought this needed pointing out, here of all places, but Ayn Rand’s ‘businessmen heroes’ bear no relation to the ‘woke corporatists’ who infest most of the largest companies of today – and Rand herself clearly was aware of the difference even then, hence the characters of James Taggart and Orren Boyle in ‘Atlas Shrugged’ who might be representatives of Big Business, but who are the exact polar opposite of heroes. (Not to mention similar but lesser characters such as Mr Mowen and Paul Larkin).
Mr Ed – American civilisation still exists.
My fellow Red Sea Pedestrian – Tony Heller (Realcimatescience.com) is fond of a map showing red and blue counties – red (in the bizarre world of modern politics) being used in the United States to show ANTI socialist counties.
America is a sea of red counties – with a handful of blue counties (cities).
These cities used to be great places of industry – they NO LONGER ARE.
Thomas Jefferson is vindicated – so are many others who warned against the National Debt, National Bank and other Hamiltonian policies.
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles…. – time for Americans to leave such places.
Zerren Yeoville – yes good point Sir.
Second bobby b.
For God’s sake, those of you outside the US, don’t imagine for a moment that the emanations of the traditional media reflect in any way the opinions of the vast majority of Americans. You’re seeing the opinions of a tiny minority of East and West Coast elites, fed to you through a soda straw. Don’t take my word for it, just take a peek at President Biden’s polling numbers. His performance over the last few days has just cemented the opinions of the vast majority of Americans – namely, what many of us have known for a long time, that if Biden were any dumber, he would need to be watered twice a week.
These are not serious people. Ukranians are being killed by an invading army, and John Kerry is blathering about their carbon footprint. Joy Behar (sp?) is lamenting the loss of her Italian vacation. Some other useful idiot (I can’t be arsed to look up her name) is saying that it’s all the fault of Putin’s White Privilege. Once again, these are not serious people. Their only meaningful impact on Putin’s aggressions would be if he were to die of (what is know in one of my native tongues as) “‘n lachstoot” after reading their meaningless, useless bloviations.
From 20 miles West of New York City, to 20 miles East of Los Angeles, with a very few outposts of moronity, most Americans know what time it is.
llater,
llamas
And yet….81 million Americans voted for him! I think to simply said this is due to the ‘traditional media’ is a bit simplistic.While the US media are awful just blaming them or a few college professors lets a lot of people off. On another thread someone was calling for collective punishment of Russians because of Putin. In fairness to the average Russian, they have a lot less influence on their government because the elections there are for show. In America though that’s not the case. I’d say it’s more justified to claim Biden voters deserve collective punishment! They knew this man. He wasn’t an unknown quantity.
Paul,
He may not have been entirely jollying you along. From what I know (and I do follow these things – a bit) I think maths has improved over the last few years. As to science… dunno. Lit is like fighting over the wreck of the Hesperus.
Shit that aged well….I’m sure it’s a coincidence but this war began almost two years after this tweet
@Martin,
That’s why I keep saying the US is over. Either they have so many stupid, uninformed, or plain brainwashed people who voted for Biden, or the Dems cheated on such a scale AND still got away with it.
Either possibility tells you the US and its institutions, or even more fundamentally, its very people, have lost their way.
When you subtract the Russian bots and influencers, the number of Twitter supporters Putin has is rather less than it appears.
Likewise, when you count only his legal votes, Biden’s total shrinks.
That said, the point remains generally valid: tens of millions of US citizens did actually vote for him.
Given the US electoral system (electoral college) it is possible corruption helped Biden over the line. But in terms of the popular vote he did get 7 million more votes than Trump and 15 million more than Clinton did in 2016. I don’t think these were all invented votes, and points more to a decadent society than corrupt electoral system. These people deserve what they get good and proper, as HL Mencken would have said.
I wish. Due to how the political spoils system works, the people – the groups – who voted for Biden are doing much better economically than the people who voted for Trump.
Biden and the Dems are now the party of the well-to-do and stable and secure white collars, while Trump stands for the lower, poorer, bluer-collared groups. Not really sure who the other Republicans stand for now. Point is, Biden’s base is doing relatively well. So, no justice.
Democrats – blue side plutocrats and warmongers, white collar bourgeoisie, the alphabet people, most but not all minorities
Never Trump Republicans – red side plutocrats and warmongers
Trump – Large amounts of the working and lower middle class
Martin – “and yet 81 million people voted for him” (Mr Biden). We both know that it was nothing like 81 million people – still tens of millions of lunatics in a nation is hardly good (and tens of millions of people did vote for Mr Biden). There was massive election fraud (covered up and denied, to this day, by the despicable media – and-so-on), but yes tens of millions of lunatics did vote for Mr Biden.
NickM – good to hear that mathematics may really be improving.
Marin and bobby b – we live in a “Cantillon Economy”.
There has been a “Cantillon Effect” for 300 years – the expansion of Credit Money going to a certain group of people (not “the increase of the money supply” coming to everyone equally – as Milton Friedman rather innocently assumed).
But the scale of things has gone well beyond a Cantillon EFFECT – it is now a fully fledged “Cantillon Economy”.
The entire Capital Structure of the West is totally twisted – a group of people benefit and everyone else loses (loses horribly).
And, yes, most of the people who benefit back Mr Biden and the other “Woke” manager class of the Western world.
And now the evil Mr Putin (and he is evil) has given them the perfect excuse for the effects of their policies.
Falling real living standards – Putin’s fault.
Rising prices in the shops – Putin’s fault.
Rising energy costs – Putin’s fault.
Vast inequality with a tiny (and degenerate) elite and an impoverished population – Putin’s fault.
Yes Mr Putin is evil – but he has give the “Woke” elite in the West exactly what they wanted, a bogey man to blame the consequences of their Credit Bubble monetary and financial policies upon.
Now when most people fall into terrible poverty (which is already starting to happen) they will be told it is nothing to with the policies of their rulers (government and corporate) – it is because of Mr Putin.
Had he not existed (and, yet again, he is an evil man) they would have had to invent him – or someone like him.
I have long thought that through history, you see the soi-disant progressives of the time, be they puritans, jacobins, liberals, socialists, bolsheviks, new left, etc. always need some kind of black legend to be held up as a bogeyman – real or imagined – to buttress their completely shaky ideologies.
The fact that official federal figures indicate there were some 16 million postal ballots unaccounted for does not prove that half of them ended up boosting Biden’s total, still less all – but neither does it prove they didn’t. The pair of Californians who faked 8000 registrations in the three months before they were caught (a month before the election) may have been caught because they were greedy – or may just have been unlucky, with 4000-per-activist being the Californian norm. Certainly, the CA guy who was picked up stoned in his car with 300 ballots during the recall election was caught by random chance – he was not caught because he had 300 instead of 30 – so if you doubt the CA-quota-per-activist is thousands, you should accept that it may be hundreds.
Most effort goes into investigating the oddities that squeezed the electoral college from Trump to Biden in the week between the election and the MSM announcing Biden had won, because that can be demonstrated, whereas the error bars on any analysis of the popular vote totals are too wide to call. But those totals could be off by millions.
Obviously, we agree on the fundamental point – on any assessment, many tens of millions voted for Biden.
Janel Forsythe a living embodiment of dunning-krueger also represents Charles Murray’s greatest book
Janel Forsythe needs to coordinate the narrative better with Nikole Hannah-Jones. Janel says it’s racist the west is not trying harder to stop white Vladimir Putin. Nikole says it’s racist the west is trying as hard as it is to save white Ukraine. I know these people insist that everything is racist, but really …
And never mind Putin’s claim that the Ukraine is not really a country. Nikole says Europe is not really a continent:
You have to give it to the founder of the 1619 project: her redefintions [sic] of reality show an ideological imagination that leaves lesser wokists trailing in her dust.