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Interesting interview with Farage I tend to avoid party politics but over on Sp!ked, Brendan O’Neill has a very interesting free ranging chat with Nigel Farage.
‘The Conservative Party is as upper class today as it has ever been. Over the past hundred years, the upper classes had more connection to their fellow man than they have today. And I’ll tell you why. Firstly, those that were from the landed classes may have been selfish financially, over the corn laws or whatever it was, but they ran their estates themselves. They actually knew the lads that cut the hay and looked after the horses. And then we had two world wars, which brought the whole class system together. Up until the late 1980s you had senior Tory politicians from posh backgrounds who could talk to the lads doing the scaffolding. They can’t do that now.’
That certainly does ring true. Read it!
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Will be first person I have ever voted for.
One of the odd things about us working class types is the unfailing ability to spot a proper toff when we see one. Cameron strikes like the thrusting, go ahead chief executive of an intellectually undemanding business, lingerie perhaps.
Can you imagine Winston saying “Vote for me and I’ll let you have that grammar school you paid for?” Managerial class scum. I expect he bought his own furniture, too.
ISTM, from my across-the-pond viewpoint, that the current Conservative Party is not traditional British upper class (county squires and such) but very much the New Entrepreneurial class. Britain’s class structure has never been impermeable, and many of the Conservatives are of middle-class origins. But perhaps there is a lack of people from the working class.
Nigel Farage is right, the three main parties leaders are totally insipid. Drearily so.
I know that Farage inspires mixed feelings, even among the commentariat here, but from my safe vantage point on the left side of the Pond I like him a lot. He’s always entertaining and tells hard, unvarnished truths. I especially enjoy his rants at the European Parliament. If I could, I would most certainly be voting for him.
Farage is out to get the floating voters, and unfortunately for the established parties, there are quite a lot of them now. Whereas Brand thinks we shouldn’t vote at all, Farage is giving them someone to vote for.
Interesting his take on the establishment, I think he’s fully in tune with the public view that politicians today are very much “meet the new boss same as the old boss”, he’s showing someone who’s had a real job, albeit a city boy, and he eats and drinks real food, and is concerned with real issues. Does he sound like if we voted for him we’d be fooled again?
His prospective spoiler opposition candidate in Thanet is a Oxbridge graduate descended from European nobility, so he is very much fighting on an anti-establishment ticket.
Hard to imagine the current upper class of the UK or US producing a unit like Eaton’s Rifles.
Nigel would have my vote if I lived in the UK. I was an early Reform Party supporter and potential candidate in Canada back in the 1990s.
I got to read the interview a bit late, but i wonder why nobody here is worried about that.
Snorri, there is far more to be worried about with this recent ‘thinking out loud‘ from a conservative Party Grandee, Lord Baker, musing about a Conservative-Labour Coalition to stop the SNP. A glass half full of sour milk topped up with sewage is still sewage for all practical purposes, and that is what is being contemplated.
The sooner that the Conservative Party says sorry for 80 years of cringing to Labour with one half-baked interlude, and vanishes, the better.
Mr.Ed,
Does a Conservative Party still exist? The name crops up now and then but true conservatives are few and far between. What we now have is three parties with little difference between them. They all colluded in the evil Climate Change Act, a deliberate act against the interests of Country and People.
Derek, I believe that it was snowing unseasonably early in October in London as the Climate Change Bill was passed by the House of Commons, the three parties do have some differences, but usually over speed rather than course. The horror of a Labour-Conservative Coalition would be a 5 year no holds barred assault on economic and personal liberty. It would of course, be Labour in charge with no moderation or concern over the check of a backbench rebellion. By then it might be too late for reform to avert economic and/or social collapse. Venezuela without the climate.
mr Ed: i tend to agree with everything you say, but that is precisely why i am worried, and why i wonder that nobody else is worried, that you have fallen so low that Old Labour is now the lesser evil.
You could vote with your feet instead.
And go where? US? Guns, yea! No actual property rights if state wants yer stuff, boo. Switzerland? Guns, kinda. Taxes, higher than people realise. New Zealand? Sheep. Canada? Maybe but too damn cold.
Any of those places would probably be better than the UK. I know that the US and Canada are, or used to be in my time. (Canada seems to have got even better.)
There are more. When it comes to PC fascism, the UK is possibly the worst place on Earth. When it comes to housing, possibly the worst in Europe.
Mr Farage is saying the unsayable.:Employers should be free to choose who they employ, even on grounds of national origin.
Iceland rejects the EU.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/03/13/iceland-drops-eu-membership-request-it-had-suspended-the-bid-in-2013