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Back to the Anglosphere future? It’s been pretty quiet here today, and all the things I’m am personally working on need more working on before they’re ready. But, if it’s true that a picture is worth a thousand words, well, here are a thousand words:
I found this at the top of a piece by Daniel Hannan about how Britain might just be being pushed out of EUrope and back into the Anglosphere.
I won’t be holding my breath, but I have long thought this to be an attractive idea.
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That sounds good to me, but I think you’re going to have to wait at least another year (until the current occupant of the White House has been evicted) to achieve any closer relationship with the US. It’s pretty clear that he holds the UK in rather low esteem. (Personally, I find Dinesh D’Souza’s analysis of the reasons for that fairly compelling.)
I’ll be the first to welcome you back to the Anglosphere — although you have to know that to most of us, you never left.
It’s ties of blood, baby. And it will outlast all the petty machinations and stupidities of the political classes.
Under a Hannan administration, sure, but with Dave in Downing street? Not much chance of that happening. Cameron has the leadership qualities of driftwood.
Well, Kim has laid my fears to rest.
My first thought upon reading this was “Yes, but will they HAVE us back?”
Cameron has the leadership qualities of driftwood.
My sack of iDave insults is pretty full, but I’m nicking that one.
I’d say, after reading the lead review of you link, that D’Sousa is spot on Laird. Barry has never struck me as being an American. He doesn’t like know or understand the People he has been elected to lead.
He wants to change the USA into somewhere else entirely, and by force if nessessary. I’m sure he doesn’t see it as destruction though, more a complete re-make.
Beating Obama should be as easy as shooting fish in the proverbial barrel, but the best the GOP can do is Newt?? Jesus! I fear we may be stuck with Barry for another 4 years, by the end of which time it will be all over for Western Civilisation.
We’d have absolutely no problem welcoming you guys back in. Hell, as far as I’m concerned, the you guys never left and with the exception of a few things (firearms laws, your odd obsession with CCTV everywhere), there isn’t a single problem in the UK that couldn’t be solved by doubling the functional brains in Labor (making them half-wits).
We all know the UK intemperately abandoned the Anglosphere some years ago. Those of us in the middle- right/ correct world would welcome it back with open arms, while the remaining elite would bat it down to its ecumenical humble place within the Eurocracy.
In “1984” George Orwell placed Great Britain in Oceana, not in Eurasia. There is played a miniscule role of Airstrip One for the Americans. You may recall Oceana was made up of the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand as well as the remainder of the Americas.
I have always thought there has been a greater affinity the UK for its former colonies than for continental Europe. It’s not just the language, it is the traditions of English common law and the thirst for personal freedoms. But language is the most important.
Margaret Thatcher once said that of all the world’s disasters in the twentieth century, it was the English speaking people who pull the world out of them. That may be an exaggeration, but there is truth to it. Winston Churchill also believed it.
For centuries, the English have thought its eastern border should be the Channel to avoid the discord of the continental powers. Maybe Oceana is the answer.
Many of our British cousins seem to be under the impression that Pres. Obama harbors a particular animus toward the UK. Don’t take it personally. He dislikes the USA just as much.
Posted by Kim du Toit at December 18, 2011 05:41 AM
“It’s ties of blood, baby. And it will outlast all the petty machinations and stupidities of the political classes.”
I’m not English or much of any other UK ethnic group but I’m all for this. Its culture baby; not blood.
“Well, Kim has laid my fears to rest.
My first thought upon reading this was “Yes, but will they HAVE us back?”
You have to be kidding. You’ve never left. We’ve always been one and always will be.
What we need is an annual conference of the following nations: US, UK, Australia, India, and Japan (Canada can come if they want), to advance the worldwide cause of individual liberty, pluralist democracy, market capitalism, rule of law, open society and culture, and peace through strength. Ultimately there gets to be a Secretariat, and other nations dedicated to those principles can become associates. Tyrannies, kleptocracies, etc. need not apply.
Love the graphic, except that the stars and maple leaf should be interchanged in the interest of topological correctness.
Time to admit it: The Normans crossed the Channel, but there’s no going back.
Regards,
Ric
Of course. Another unifying (some might say “centralizing”) force couldn’t possibly hurt.
I have thought, for some time, that what is needed is a new international group, to be called ‘The Allied Nations’. These would be democracies, who give preferential trade to each other, and only let in countries that they judge to be genuine democracies, and able to expel any countries that fall into despotism. Leave the old UN, and have something new!
Well at least we can watch 007 movies again. All hail the Queen!
Dear UK:
Welcome home. We’ll leave the porch light on for you.
Regards,
America, Australia, New Zealand, Canada et al.
You are going to have to wait until we get rid of Hussein — he hates Britain, almost as much as he hates America.
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The Brits created the ‘Anglosphere’ then abandoned it in the ’70’s and ’80’s with their new found flirtation with Europe.
They seemed to forget that Britain is not Europe, and that it had far more solid allies and peoples holding its common position in Australia, NZ, Canada, and the US (the 5 Anglo’s).
It needs to return to this natural position.
Add SecDef Rumsfeld’s “New Europe” along with the Vilnius Ten, call it the Freedom Alliance. Support these freedom-seeking emerging democracies. Create a Trans-Atlantic Free-Trade Agreement–TAFTA, in which all capitalism-believing countries are welcomed to participate (under the proviso, of course, that they actually support, you know, individual freedom and social and economic intercourse).
ABO~OMG !
Take good care,
Sandy
nb: May the Joy and Promise of Peace of the Christmas be with you and yours throughout a Safe, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Ah, Ireland?
Northern Ireland would want to join, the Republic would not- at first. If any new grouping throve, then they might decide to join, after all.
I think Obama’s nastiness towards Great Britain is actually an attempt to remove the USA from the Anglosphere, not an attempt to kick out Great Britain. He’s just as bad to Australia, and possibly the other Anglosphere nations.
I can’t speak for the entire Anglosphere, but this Aussie has had the attitude that you never really left, and while I don’t dislike France and Germany, I don’t really get why you’re wasting time sucking up to them rather than hanging around with your true friends. 😉
Sandy, I thought my ‘Allied Nations’ concept, mentioned above, covered the same ground you did. Additionally, nations would keep their armies, but would train together, and defend each other against attack, and agree not to fight each other.
I strongly suspect that many of us on the west side of the pond, south of Canada, would be intrigued and positive about closer economic integration with a UK that was genuinely interested in it—realize that the EU doesn’t really offer the UK much beyond a customs union, reinvigorate the Commonwealth, and the UK and US, with its own network of trade agreements, would have a LOT to talk about. Once Obama is gone, of course.
Although the UK is much smaller than the US, for historical and cultural reasons the UK would punch above its weight in a partnership with the US. As you’ve seen, in a Franco-German Europe, not so much.
In an age of instantaneous transfer of gigabytes of information, and container ships making the transport of high-value goods almost too cheap to matter, how much wider is the Atlantic than the Channel, really?