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Samizdata pub of the day It won’t last, but while it does …
An Australian pub offering free drinks to women who remove their underwear and display it to patrons and staff will be investigated by alcohol licencing regulators, authorities said on Thursday.
The Saint Hotel in Melbourne has promised a “No Undie Sundie” event over the coming weekend, where woman who remove their underwear and hang it above the bar will receive A$50 ($39) worth of free drinks.
I wouldn’t like this. It’s not the female anatomy qua female anatomy. It’s more the other men who’d be there, yelling and drinking, and slapping me on my frail back. But me not liking something is not the same as me thinking something should be illegal. Sadly, it seems that “Liquor Licensing Victoria director Sue Maclellan” is not in the habit of making such subtle distinctions.
Good that Guido, to whom thanks, and who currently has this report in his Seen Elsewhere section, doesn’t just babble on about party politics, but from time to time at least notices more fundamental issues.
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Geez, not even cash.
Do blokes get free beer for taking their undies off? If not then I can see why some people might have a problem with it.
I fail to see what’s wrong with it. Sounds like just a bit of bawdy fun participated freely in by adults. What’s to not like?
The fact it’s women only isn’t sexist as mandrill seems to be suggesting. Women and men are different. There’s little interest in men without their underwear, except on the gay scene. This is the market doing what individuals actually want from it, rather than what other people think they should want from it. That’s what the free market is all about. To impose left-wing “fairness” on it (notional sexual equality) would in fact produce unfairness, since the men (presumably) actually want women without underwear whereas the women (probably) aren’t much enthused by men without underwear. Which is socialism all over; everyone is made equal by ensuring nobody gets what they actually want.
What Ian B said. This is a *private* establishment. Melbourne is a big city. If you disapprove of what happens at the Saint Hotel (which, for the record, I think I probably do), find another fucking pub. If you don’t like taking your underwear off in return for free drinks, then here’s a thought – don’t take your underwear off in return for free drinks. If you’d rather read quietly or wrestle a kangaroo, or attend a Women’s Studies seminar; go and do that, and quit worrying about what other people do for fun.
Methinks Sue McLellan suffers from the thought disorder (puritanism) so pithily diagnosed by HL Mencken:
“The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy”
If not, why can’t we be thankful?
It just doesn’t sound particularly sanitary to me.
It’s off, folks. Aussies or not, Nanny-Statism got its say there too.
Nothing the matter with it, Brian. the good ladies are not going to be asked to do anything else.
But , yeh, it’s off anyway. The f*****g safety-Nazis have got their teeth into its ankle.