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The Clinton campaign office drama… the lesson is clear The deranged individual who forced his way into Hillary Clinton’s New Hampshire campaign office has given us all a wake up call. How much longer will we tolerate the situation where any lunatic can threaten innocent people?
After holding three people hostage for six hours, Leeland Eisenberg, 46, emerged from Clinton’s campaign office in Rochester in a white dress shirt and red tie with duct tape wound tightly around his waist over what he said was a bomb.
The message could not be more clear… ban duct tape now!
Do it for the children.
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Quite so Perry!
And the producers of duct tape must be sued – X zillion for emotional distress for a start.
Besides if duct tape is used to cover a person’s mouth and nose they DIE.
As you say, duct tape could be used to KILL CHILDREN.
Clearly it must be banned.
Agreed.
This duct tape stuff is almost as bad as the dreaded DHMO, potentially lethal in even small quantities.
Of course we should not neglect to consider the banning of politicians given the role they play in giving lunatics a convenient place to seek attention.
(not to mention the numerous side benefits of this second policy)
“How much longer will we tolerate the situation where any lunatic can threaten innocent people?”
Are they referring to Hilary or the dude with the red duct tape.
Hey Perry, I think you’re channelling Thaddeus Tremayne!
I am going to be the contrarian here. I think a reasonable compromise is possible. We only need to ban assault duct tape. You know, those really big 250′-500′ rolls of 2 1/2″ wide tape, sometimes even printed in threatening colors. With reasonable safe guards put in place, we can continue to allow rolls of 50′ or less and widths of less than 1 1/2″. Any color other than silver/gray is of course provocative, and should be banned.
Also, law abiding citizens should have no problem registering their intended use for the duct tape at the time and point of purchase and unused portions should be returned to the point of purchase for safe disposal.
Duct tape does not kill people, people kill people.
………..time to ban people, then.
Now we are getting somewhere!
civil commitment does come to mind. Unfortunately this guy will go to a psychiatric ward and get on meds, will be deemed no threat to others, and get cut loose. since parole cannot be indefinite, he will be free to go off his meds and get as crazy as he wants to be. It’ll be all the more funny when he detonates next time. Hah! Hah Hah Hah!
I think it was the trilateral commission that planted the bug in his head though. If we could just issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal on those bastards.
just to clarify before I am called a neocon trotskyite democrat…assault weapons ban was the dumbest thing and I am happy my CZ75 hi-caps are a quarter of the cost, and that my RRA A4 AR15 was affordable and didn’t have a bunch of silly cosmetic alterations or a pinned and welded flash suppressor.
you just have to appreciate how little room we have to monitor guys like this who we know are completely crazy 8 bonkers. Always made me laugh in DK when they railed against the US for our homeless and our authoritarianism when they took care of it by forcibly scooping the nuts up and keeping track of them.
Sorry, I know I know I know I submit, we should all be free to wander about whacked out of our gourds unable to care for ourselves because it advances something in principle somehow.
No, no, no. You’ve got it all wrong.
Ban red ties with dress shirts. They should have spotted him as a wrong ‘un as soon as he walked in.
spidly,
For a while your comments here were rational but you’re turning into a single issue obsessive.
While I understand your concern about the dreaded assault duct tape problem, for those of SAMIZDATA’s readers who are not following the news from “the colonies” in detail, there is something more to this story.
The hostage taker was in telephone contact with CNN news all through the episode, and CNN is the source of most of the coverage. A key part of the coverage was the motivation for the whole thing: “I need to speak to Hillary Clinton,” CNN quoted him as saying. “Something’s got to change. Ordinary people need help” with their insurance. Given Clinton’s public desire to embrace the least desirable aspects of your NHS on behalf of the rest of the country, this plays right into her campaign. Especially given the recent deliberate salting of both parties’ CNN sponsored candidate debate questioners with Democratic party operatives posing as “undecided voters”; there is more than a passing suspicion among many that this was a publicity stunt for Hillary. She eclipsed a Virginia gathering of the other Democratic candicates, stole a news cycle, and there is a meme being pushed by our media about how ‘presidential’ she looked in the aftermath. Our media is as one tracked and politically correct as yours, with CNN trying to live up to its nickname of the Clinton News Network.
Subotai Bahadur
nick, still… a rational single issue obsessive. anyway I think I’ve worked that bug out.
Subotai Bahadur,
not really, right?
oh hell, you are serious. Even has the priest sex abuse angle.
we’ll see if he turns up on some Hillary steering committee paperwork.
look at the the highlights at the top
so stupid. like when they drag some guy out of a car after an hour long nationally televised chase: “suspect allegedly led police on a …..” why the hell do we say suspect or allegedly, like that asshat Chris Angel swapped places with some innocent guy at the last second.
speaking of high speed chases;
Rodney King is shot while riding his bike
I didn’t say that he didn’t get beat down hard enough
They say that for legal reasons. They might otherwise be subject to gagging orders which brings us neatly back full-circle.
Yes spidly, you are rational. So fair enough.
When he goes to trial, I’d like to see if he uses the “Hillary told me to do it” defense.
The real question: Will a judge let the defense stall the trial until after election day? (Hell, what are New Hampster’s speedy-trial rules anyway?)
Think anyone likes her enough to plead out in order to keep that story out of the press?
Subotai:
Just saw on CNN: Hugo Chavez claiming that he “loved” CNN and watched it more than any other channel. Is it okay to judge CNN by its fan club?
Since it is apparently OK to judge Ron Paul by his fanclub, I don’t see why not.
Midwesterner, but what if YOUR child were the victim of duct tape? Have you seen any images of what duct tape can do?
(The People)
(The Children)
(The Animals)
(The Environment)
There can be no compromise! Ban it all, and ban it now!
spidly-
I don’t see how the reality of the priest sex abuse angle destroys Subotai Bahadur’s conspiracy theory. If Clinton were going to stage a publicity stunt of this kind, her campaign would have to find someone down on his luck to pull it off as there is the very real possibility of jail time. All the better if he really is nuts. Of course the burden of proof is on the conspiracy theorists to make their case, not the Clinton campaign to debunk it – I’m just saying that worse things have happened in politics, so this isn’t a priori crazy.
Whether or not there is a conspiracy, I am appreciating the irony of the whole thing. The mentality of the kind of person who goes into a political office with fake bombs strapped on demanding free things from the government is merely the less polite, more honest version of what every voting Democrat does when they go to the polling stations to approve ever-more increases in handouts for themselves. They “need” it and other people have it, and they conclude from this that that means it must be handed over forthwith. Charming people, left-wingers.
joshua, nowhere did I imply that anything debunked any theory. I thought it interesting and convenient that this guy has a priest abuse claim to boot. If anything it would answer the question “I wonder where they dug this guy up?”
Joshua:
Yes the man with the “bomb” was an example of Hillaryism in practice.
As for his favourate television station – CNN:
Well that is just an example of Senator Hillary Clinton’s “Progressive consensus” the line that the lady demands that all television and radio stations, and print publications, and schools and universities, follow.
President Chevez has already largely achieved this end in Venezuela, for example private schools (if they are to be allowed to exist) must teach the same doctrines as government schools, and private television stations must broadcast the same line as the govenment television stations. Although the vote today, and the reaction to it, will determine whether it all sticks. And the effects of some of the Progressivism, the “rational prices” for basic goods, have made even some of his supporters think twice.
If he was smart Chevez would make sure it was a “no” vote for his unlimited terms and just get in someone like him in the next election – as President Putin is doing.
Even Mrs Hillary Clinton does not want to be President-for-life, as long as another Progressive is President after her.
The lady believes that de facto control of the media and “education system” will achieve this objective.
A lot more subtle than putting electronic chips in people’s heads.
Oh, sorry – I misunderstood you then. I did indeed think that was your intention. Apologies.
It is almost as if President Chevez has taken my advise.
With a “no” vote on him as de facto President-for-life it is much harder to justify a rising. If the vote had been “yes” on all-power-for-ever-to-Chevez it would have been logical to state that the vote was rigged.
And with a vote of 51% to 49% President Chevez can still claim to have support – “they just have some doubts about granting me total power for ever – they are quite happy that I should be able to do anything I feel like till 2012” can be the line.
I suspect that Senator Hillary Clinton, she of the Fs and 0s from the various Taxpayer’s Unions and Spending Watchdogs, will be secrectly quite pleased with this result. Whilst, like Speaker Nancy P., denouncing the “thug” Chevez in public.
I thought about that this morning too.
However, there were too many populist vote-buying grabs in his package deal to think that he set himself up to fail. For instance, he wanted to give housewives pensions and constitutionally limit the workday to 6 hours. Not the sort of thing you include in a term-limits package if you’re playing by the rules.
The idea that he could have rigged a 49-51 spread stretches credulity – and yet this is, as you point out, in many ways the best possible result he could have hoped for. In addition to preventing an uprising against him, it allows him to throw his democratic “credentials” in the faces of his international critics (chiefly the US government). He’s held a referendum and lost, right? So the next time he wants to hold one he can fix it, and Jimmy Carter can simply point to his concession on this one as evidence that all was well.
I love, by the way, how the media here is keeps playing up his “unusually conciliatory tone.” As if. In addition to warning the opposition to “learn how to handle their victory,” he charmingly adds that “this isn’t a defeat, this is for now” and “I am not withdrawing a single comma from this proposal — it remains alive” – ending with a promise to “continue the battle to build socialism.” If that’s “concession,” (fill in blank with your favorite sarcastic exaggerated comparison filler).
Joshua:
I agree with all the points you have made.