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Already did it… got a new passport well before the old one expired.
Yep, went down the hill and got new pictures done yesterday.
Will be putting in my renewal on monday.
Tony Blair could assure his legacy and receive the gratitude of the British people, FUCK OFF NOW!
I will have to renew my passport at one of the embassies over here in the USA. I am not looking forward to that game to be honest with you. Plus they charge over $200 for the bloody privilege.
I fear that I will be getting the e-Passport but I am not too sure.
I am concerned that even though I am resident in the USA that my name and details will be on the UK’s NIR? Does anyone know?
The important thing to do here is tell everyone you know with children over 16. They are to be first.
Oh, and you non-EEA foreign residents: Jackie, Michael… Kylie, Madonna, Germaine, Gwynneth… you know who you are… You are up for fingerprinting next. The UK Borders Bill will have you register your whereabouts with the authorities soon enough.
Guy – you’re point about non-EEA is well taken. My (US citizen) wife will be caught by this. That’ll be after she takes the test to prove she speaks English in order to get her Leave to Remain made indefinite. A process from which EU citizens are, of course, exempt.
Still, all these hurdles are in a good cause, right? I mean, the last thing we want in our country is immigrants who can actually speak the language!
Oops! I meant to type “your”, of course. I’ll take my red face elsewhere now…
I did this a while back. Thanks for tipping me off Guy!
RAB and others. A word of caution. The rules on photos have tightened-up and most photo-booths don’t meet them. All photos submitted must be completely identical.
I have seen and done far worse here the other rob. Far worse.
My father’s a Brit and I’ve been meaning to obtain a British passport for years. Spose I should get my act together soon.
Someone told me that, as the child of a UK citizen, I’ll need to be living and working in the UK to be eligible for a passport. Does anyone know if this is true?
James,
Unless you are planning to live in Britain, and have no other options, I wouldn’t bother anyway. Becoming a British Citizen already involves all the state intrusion that us natives are struggling to avoid having imposed on us. Plus you have to take a test, in which the official answers differ from those you and I might give.
The other options are Irish, German and Austrian nationality. They are available if you have an Irish grandparent, any German ancestry, or large amounts of money respectively, and all convey absolute rights of residence in the UK. In the case of the Irish, there appears to be nothing the UK government can do under current treaty arrangements to force them to register where they live, and other EU residents can only be compelled after, or at the same time, as Brits, so they are better off since registration cannot be made a condition of their own passport, etc.
Could I be Irish, I would be. (And a writer.) Sad to say, I have no ancestry other than English in the recent past.
I am concerned that even though I am resident in the USA that my name and details will be on the UK’s NIR? Does anyone know?
No. Parliamentary answers are ambiguous denials, but it is very hard to see how the system could work without some sort of record being created for non-resident passport-holders, even if no audit trail were created for their activities overseas.
Consider the situation ten or twenty years hence when an NIR is in operation – if every entrant to the UK requires a visa/ID, or is tracked via their UK passport/ID if a resident citizen, then for a non-resident citizen to have right of entry while remaining off the system would be screw the surveillance system. (Capsule residential programmes in Dublin and Barcelona, Bermuda and Cyprus would be a great business to be in.)
What’s more it would be inconsistent with both the worldwide data-sharinig ambitions in much recent legislation, and the policy of the crown in imposing biometric ID systems on its dependencies.
However, the NIR doesn’t exist yet, and may never do so. (Still no specification has been issued; procurement looks becalmed.) By making it more difficult to capture your data, you expats are helping make sure it doesn’t.
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I’m assuming this means the fact that I currently hold a child’s passport will make me exempt from interview initially, but does anyone know how long this is likely to last? I am already considering renewing soon as I am eligiable for an adult passport now.
Thanks for the info Guy! I was wondering how they could get our info/details whilst we are in, say, the USA.
There are ways that they could obtain our data though I am sure, like through the credit bureaus etc. Although as far as that is concerned, I believe that the bureaus cannot share that kind of information overseas legally and that would have to force a change in the law in the UK.
I am pleased that being an ex-pat buggers up some of their ambitions 🙂
Stuart,
Time is of the essence here, get your passport renewed as soon as possible just to keep yourself off the radar for as long as possible 🙂
onepagan,
There are ways that they could obtain our data though I am sure, like through the credit bureaus etc. Although as far as that is concerned, I believe that the bureaus cannot share that kind of information overseas legally and that would have to force a change in the law in the UK.
The law is different for the purposes of the Act. Any public authority can be required to give data in connection with passport applications (s38 & s39) under regulations to be brought forward within the month. Credit reference information can in any case be sent out of the UK with the data-subject’s permission, which will undoubtedly be a condition of application on the passport form, if it is not covered otherwise. (The “personal information profile” system already compares Experian data with passport applications.) Remember you have no right to a passport; it is a prerogative document.
(You might want to know that the new Serious Crime Bill, ccl.61-65 effectively abolish all data-protection legislation for financial information where the information is shared by or for the purposes of “specified fraud prevention bodies” which can include anyone anywhere in the world, including organisations without legal personality, whom the Secretary of State chooses to specify.)