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Scandal in Shanghai

Steve Edwards relates an interesting story unfolding in the Chinese blogosphere:

Chinese Internet vigilantes have launched a hunt for a self-professed British bounder who has sparked outrage by blogging about his seduction of women in Shanghai. The campaign to uncover the identity of the blogger and have him kicked out of China is the latest in a series of online denunciations that have drawn comparisons with the humiliations inflicted by mobs during the Cultural Revolution.

Traffic on the Sex and Shanghai blog [currently restricted to members only – JW] had surged from 500 hits to more than 17,000, thanks to a swarm of castration threats, anti-British rants and attacks on women who sleep with foreigners.

That some Chinese men are haunted by a sense of sexual inadequacy should come as no surprise – it is a trait that can be uncovered universally. However, there seems a particularly ‘Chinese’ way of expressing this, combining a sense of wounded pride, chauvinism and sexual frustration. I recall similar goings on a few years ago when a young Chinese female author wrote a scandalous (by Chinese standards) book that was subsequently banned. The protagonist, a Chinese teenage girl, got up to all kinds of naughtiness. In the most infamous scene, she has sex with a German in a public bathroom, stating something like “riding his big cock was like sitting on a fire hose”. Such explicit prose brought forth a torrent of outraged letters to the author and messages posted on bulletin boards. Most of them were deeply offended by the sexual encounter with the foreigner, and many threatened sexual violence involving the respondent’s own (presumably fictitious) monster appendage.

The ugly controversy these isolated tales of sexual licence generate obscures – yet also confirms – the fact that generally, Chinese women are probably the most sexually conservative in East Asia. Despite its ostensible headlong rush to modernise and embrace the rest of the world (not an entirely apt metaphor, considering my forthcoming conclusion), such controversies show that much of Chinese society harbours a visceral discomfort with the consequences of throwing open the gates to Johnny Foreigner. This evidently includes large elements of the net-savvy middle class; a demographic that usually has progressive views ascribed to it. Socially, China is still quite an illiberal society, despite the adoption of many Western values. Foreign workers in a city like Shanghai can lose sight of this in the familiar surroundings of expensive consumer goods, rows of the steel and glass churches of capitalism and a general will to party like it’s 1999 amongst the city’s elite and emerging elite. Nevertheless, as this story confirms, conflating the two cultures can still be dangerous; even in the midst of China’s latest Cultural Revolution.

17 comments to Scandal in Shanghai

  • Yes, well, we all miss the Gwelio Diaries, too.

  • Just yesterday I had a conversation with my hairstylist about my theory that men with small penises lost the Sexual Revolution. Women have more experience and have done some comparison shopping.

    Well-endowed Chinese men have nothing to fear. Now, what percentage of the Chinese male population is well-endowed is the next matter for speculation.

    Fpr all others, romancin’ and technique become far more important. Chow like a dyke. Those things can make up for a lot.

    Censoring blogs isn’t the answer. China keeps reverting to its hear no evil/see no evil stance, officially enforced by the gummint.

  • Actually the difference in Penis size is there, but very small (something like .5cm average difference between caucasian and east asian according to most studies).

    The difference is in Porn.

    Whereas the American porn industry emphasises blokes with huge cocks and chicks with huge tits, the asian (Japanese) porn industry is more concerned with how young the girl is and how loud she screams.

    This is where a large part of the (small dick) perception comes from. Japanese male porn stars are chosen for their ability rather than their size.

  • Also the other point is that for about 30 years Japanese porn wasn’t allowed to show any genitalia or pubic hair, so a bloke with an enormous cock was really unnecessary.

    Plus most Japanese girls would probably rather fuck an octopus anyway.

  • Samsung

    I’ve seen Japanese porn and generally speaking, those guys really are small down stairs. Sometimes the pubic hair is longer than the cock. It’s no wonder you see so many asian chicks with white guys. I think the last time I saw dicks that size, I was sharing the sports changing rooms at Junior School. The reality is, different races have different size genitles. Biologically speaking, oriental women have smaller vaginas than their Western counterparts, and consequently oriental men have smaller penises to fit in them. After all, you don’t need a big plug to put into a small plug socket. “Body size” has something to do with penis size. And after watching all that Jap porn, all I can say is, Asian men are not big.

    And another thing, have you noticed how obsessed/fixated oriental cultures seem to be with problems of male virility and impotence. Hence the reason for all those Chinese herbal remedies containing endangered rhino horn or ground up tiger bones and dried seal penises to help alleviate their so called “erection problems”. What gives?

  • Alice

    Not easy to follow Yobbo’s perceptive commentaries, but let’s try!

    First, even in the decadent West, attitudes to sex are still hard to fathom. The same media that promotes homosexual “marriage” and has kind words for the homosexual predators of the North American Man-Boy Love Association was recently shocked — SHOCKED! — that there were polygamists Out West in the US. Good thing the authorities arrested that guy near Las Vegas & put him in jail! One suspects that, even in the West, sex is merely a suitable cudgle to swing in what is really a political battle.

    Second, young Chinese males today are on the leading edge of a demographic disappointment. Given the Chinese government’s “One Child” policy, the traditional Chinese preference for sons, and the ready availability of sex-selective abortion & female infanticide (strangely ignored by the usual suspects at the New York Times), there are something over 10 million “surplus” males in the Chinese cohort in their teenage years. Lots & lots of testosterone-charged young Chinese males who are never going to get a date, let alone a wife. Under such circumstances, how are the Chinese expected to react to tales of a nubile young Chinese woman getting her pleasuring courtesy of foreign males?

  • “Under such circumstances, how are the Chinese expected to react to tales of a nubile young Chinese woman getting her pleasuring courtesy of foreign males?”

    By playing Worlds of Warcraft like guys who can’t get a date do in the west?

    The fact is that if this happened in the US, and it was white men attacking black men for “stealing our women”, it would be international front page news.

    But because its racism directed AGAINST whitey, it’s apparently all ok.

  • Alice

    “But because its racism directed AGAINST whitey, it’s apparently all ok.”

    Yobbo — sorry , lad. It’s back to the Politically Correct Reducation Camp for you! Didn’t you pay attention through all those years of school?

    It is not possible for anyone to be racist AGAINST white people. White people (except white females) are always racist all the time against everybody. Nobody else in the world is ever racist — it is just not physically possible. And if some black ruffians beat up Korean shop-owners, well that is just a reaction against White racism. Both the blacks & the Asians are victims of White racism in that case.

    Really! You know all of this. I should not have to remind you.

  • darkbhudda

    I do feel sorry for those Chinese guys having to compete with rich foreigners as well as each other.

    But I avoid Asian women. I’m too well endowed for most white women who haven’t had a kid. So you can imagine what happen the first time I was with a Japanese woman. Years later I’m still emotionally scarred.

  • cryptononcommie

    The provincial view expressed in the comment section is astounding. Instead of engaging in a study of comparative penis length (what sort of site is this anyways? :P) among the various “racial” groups, perhaps the geo-political ramifications of this article/event should be considered.

    Due to Western willingness to transfer almost all Western intellectual capital (“know-how”) to mainland China in exchange for trinkets, through crappy (unfriendly) Western labour regulations and socialist attitudes, and a idealistic free-trade ideology that would have been more than willing to trade with the 3rd Reich and the USSR if only they were still around, the Chinese economy is accelerating at a frightening pace, and will eventually (soon) eclipse any (and slightly later, all) Western economies. This economic “miracle” will be (and is) acompanied by a large expansion of the PLA (People’s Liberation Army) and PRC global influence. The future ability of the PRC to project its power around the globe has terrible geo-political ramifications.

    Previous changes in the established world order e.g. the collapse of the (West) Roman Empire, the decline (and eventual fall to the hands of the Muslims) of the East Roman (Byzantine) Empire at Constantinopol (“Istanbul”), the displacement of France and England by a newly unified Prussian Germany, the rise of the 3rd Reich, and the rise of the USSR have all been terrible, and marked by uncomprehensible amounts of bloodshed and attrocities.

    The behavious of the PRC (historic and recent) is far from encouraging. The annexation of neighborus, followed by a government-instigated colonization policy, more-or-less unprovoked attack agains UN troops in Korea during the Korean War, support of North Vietnam against S. Vietnam and Western Allies, the PRC invasion of Vietnam after the Western Allies departed, the official PRC policy of the use of its military against ROC on Taiwain if it chooses to “seceed” (maintain its defacto independence, become an internationally recognized state). All these events were carried out when the PRC was far more impotent than it is now. Currently, it is stonewalling against a UN solution in Sudan, using its vassal sock-pupet state North Korea to harass Japan, S. Korea, and the US, propping up the Iranians including the sale of weapons, preventing UN diplomatic resolution agains the Iranians, etc.

    Now that the setup is complete, let us return to the article:
    This article indicates a collectist/nationalist mob frenzy combined with a large component of xenophobia, and shame (the desire to “prove” oneself) within the collective PRC psyche. If this is indeed the case, then we are dealing with a population extremely willing to wage wars and commit attrocities (on a scale the likes of which not seen since or potentially even during the brief tenure of the 3rd Reich).

    Let us also rember the “ancient” (not really that old) Chinese tradition of executing all the “white devils” (including Western diplomats/envoys, journalists, women, children during the continuation of the “Opium Wars” and the “Rightenous and Harmonious Society”/”Boxer” Rebellion/Genocide) within its realm from time to time. Furthermore, having read several things on the matter of the Opium Wars by PRC nationals, there apprears to be a large sentiment of “historical wronging” and the “need to right it” and “remove the shame from the nation” within the PRC, reminiscent of the sentiment found within the Weimar Republic after the Armistice (and we all know how well that worked out; answer for the ahistorical: WWII).

    That is all I have time for (for now). You may now return to bragging about how much larger your phallus is than that of most East Asian men.

  • Naman

    I’m wondering how much the increase in the male-female ratio in China is affecting the reaction of Chinese males. Bad enough there are fewer women to compete for, now they have to compete with foreigners too.

  • Dave

    It has nothing to do with penis size or wealth, which is something libertarians will never accept, afterall everything is about money, no?!

    Its about biology:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4708459.stm

    “Why one species branches into two is a question that has haunted evolutionary biologists since Darwin.

    Given our planet’s rich biodiversity, “speciation” clearly happens regularly, but scientists cannot quite pinpoint the driving forces behind it.”

    “if similarly closely related species are living side-by-side, the researchers noticed, they frequently look strikingly different – their “teams” are clearly advertised.

    This has the effect of discouraging inter-species mating, thus encouraging genetic isolation and species divergence.”

    Chinese males are simply protecting their genetic territory by trying to discourage inter species mating.

    Its nature..

  • which is something libertarians will never accept, afterall everything is about money, no?!

    No. You really need to stop telling us what libertarians think because you keep demonstrating that you only have a vague notion on that score.

    If you insist on making wild generalisations about libertarians, you will not go far wrong if you assume ‘everything’ is about liberty.

    The term libertarian is a bit of a clue (though that said, socialism is all about replacing ‘social’ interaction with politically mediated interaction…)

  • Dave, humanity has spent at least the last 10000 years profoundly subverting natural behavioural law. Your explanation is bunk.

  • I do think cryptocommie has valid points as to the submerged ice of the Chinese nation. Once they get powerful and spread their wings and influence, the C19th colonialists will seem like Laurel and Hardy.

  • Dave

    Spent 10,000 years trying to subvert natural behaviour but whether they have been successful is another matter entirely.

    There are many situations where you can see peoples instincts take over from rational thought.
    Such as when someone ‘without thinking’ runs into a burning building to rescue a stranger.

    Such as when the married man has an ‘affair’ with the slapper down the road causing him an extremely expensive divorce and possibly the loss of his kids.

    Human nature is not so easy to escape from.

  • Spent 10,000 years trying to subvert natural behaviour but whether they have been successful is another matter entirely.

    What a simple world you live in.