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How Gall-ing I have just cast my beady eyes over this Stratfor article which, alas, I cannot link to (hefty subscription fee required) but here is the opening paragraph:
France is threatening to veto the consensus that the United Nations Security Council finally should lift sanctions on Libya. In the end, the French position is bluster. France cannot afford the heavy price a veto would levy. While Paris’ anti-American policies are wildly popular at home, they are affecting France in meaningful ways that will continue to impact French prestige, power and the country’s bottom line for years to come.
What follows is a detailed analysis in the impeccably objective Stratfor tradition but I reckon the above is enough to fuel a good-sized helping of thoroughly malicious glee on the other side of the Atlantic.
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Damn, you’re up late for a Brit.
Warm milk? Ambien?
please be kind and link the article.
S.Weasal,
So much blogging to do, so little time. Off to bed now.
bago,
I would love to but nobody would be able to access it without paying the subscription fee (I believe over $100) first.
However, if you wish to subscribe, here is the Stratfor website.
hehehehehehehe
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
That stupid new ad campaign to woo us back???
Let’s fall in love again???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
They’re going to have to be denuked, demilitarized and deislamicized.
I’m too damn cheap to subscribe. But I’ll ask around and see if someone else can link.
Can you summarize why the French don’t want to lift sanctions on Libya? Or why they even care?
It’s cause a french commercial aircraft with 170 onboard persons was bring down by terror ring of Col. Khadaffi like in Lockerbie. Prob is that French agree to get around 30000$ for person now they saw that US and British got 3 Million for person started craying. Values are from memory so can be wrong.
Chirac must be the worst french President since 2nd wwar..
One thing you might try is going to the Stratfor website and signing up for their emails. You’ll get a taste of their content daily, enough to whet your appetite and stimulate the grey cells.
Stratfor used to have a forum for subscribers called yourview. They didn’t manage it very well and eventually closed it down. The core of that community created a site called strategytalk (http://www.strategytalk.org) which carries on in much the same tradition but with better software and moderation (well, mostly).
Stratfor is usually on the ball.
Going on past Froggie performances, I fully expect they will apply the veto on lifting the sanctions on Libya.
In the long term this is good as it really adds weight to the view that having Froggieland as an ally is detrimental to your country’s long term future.
I would expect that the Bush Administration will ignore the veto and startup active economic relationships with Libya further enhancing the U.S. position in the Arab World.
Shaun Borke,
“(…) having Froggieland as an ally is detrimental to your country’s long term future”
And what about having a non-elected “president” making each & every huge mistake possible?
******
“I would expect that the Bush Administration (…) startup active economic relationships with Libya further enhancing the U.S. position in the Arab World”
Yes: it’s all about “further” & “enhancing”. I’m afraid your “position in the Arab world” isn’t exactly propperly initiated. It’s also going nowhere.
One little mistake: it’s you guys who are on the other side of the Atlantic.
I can tell ’cause France is over there.
And you’re right: I gloat.
Kodiak is lost. Somebody give him the IP addresses for Democratic Underground and Indymedia. Fisk his ass, too. I’d love to, but that would be like clubbing a baby seal.
Kodiak,
The current President of The United States…George W Bush…was duly elected “by majorities of The Electors of the Several States”, as called for under the Constitutation of The United States. It was due to this “Law of the Land” that Algore and his buddies (like you) were told by the Supreme Court to….”f***-off”.
Contary to the propaganda…..errr news stories you have read in the NYT or some other fish wrappers, things are actually going quite well for the U.S. and her allies not only in Iraq, but in many other Arabic countries as well. And while the Iraqi and Syrian Nazi Partys along with their buddies continue to “shit in their own backyards”, the Allied efforts are going to be made easier. One should also take into account that “Rome was not built in a day”.
Sadly Kodiak there are millions of people out there around the world just like you who, if only for a few minutes, would remove their heads from their rectums, wipe the crap of their faces, and view the vast vistas out there that make up our wonderfull planet with all the fabulous opportunities that await their efforts.
Wow. Hats off to Shaun.
Although I can add little to what he said, I will point out to Kodiak that:
Your sort told us there would be tens of thousands of Coalition casualties. There weren’t.
You told us there would be hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties. There weren’t.
You told us there would be 500,000 to 2,000,000 refugees. There weren’t.
You told us the Iraqi populace would resist the infidel invaders. It hasn’t (unless you consider a relative handful of Ba’athist loyalists to be the “Iraqi populace”).
You told us there would be mass starvation. There wasn’t.
You told us Saddam would unleash the sort of chemical weapons he used on the Kurds against us. He didn’t.
You told us the Arab street would rise up. It hasn’t.
In fact, it is so bad off for you that you’re left carping because the Coalition did not sufficiently protect a museum and as a result 33 significant pieces of Iraqi “art” (have you actually SEEN that crap?) were looted (or it may have been an inside job), and similar things–most of which would have to be magnified tenfold just to reach the level of “trivia.”
A rational person with a record of utter failure like yours would take every opportunity to shut up, Kodiak. Sadly, however, that class of “rational” people does not, apparently, include you.
“It is one thing for Paris to discover that France does not figure highly into Washington’s calculus. It is quite another to find out that the same holds true in Tripoli.”
Oh dear!! Or should that be Zut Alors!!
Shaun Bourke,
First thanx very much for your delicate elegance & your irresistible sense of recherché: it’s adding quite a lot to an already extraordinarily well substantiated argument.
(Is Admin sleeping or waiting for a UN resolution to intervene?)
No George The Second wasn’t elected by anyone, weren’t it for a bunch of fossilised, bedridden, unelected hoaxers called The Supreme Joke. Also I’m not the buddy of Al Gore, an inimitable loser with a defeatist flavour.
Don’t worry: I’m not into reading stuff like NYT (I couldn’t stand the awful prospect of encouraging US economy by granting my strong euros to a poor-performing country hungry for foreing currency).
BTW: you coin strange word associations by linking “Nazi” to supposedly “Baasist” parties (however dreadful those may be) & using “the Allied” (a WW2-connotated phrase) to refer to a bunch of rogue States. Semantical slippery is nigh. I won’t be judgemental & patiently wait for your skidding on amalgams such as “Saddam is worse than Hitler”, “we are the good & they are evil”, “Christ (or Jeovah or Allah or who you want) is with us”.
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Panda,
I, as far as I am concerned, didn’t tell you anything except what I’m saying now: take your troops & go back home. The sooner, the better.
Kodiak,
Your lack of knowledge on the actual mechanisms for electing a President of the United States is simply breathtaking.
The Ba’asist Socialist Party was built-up and financed from almost its beginning by the NSDWP during the 1930s….commonly refered to as The Nazi Party……..yes thats right….Adolf Hitler’s operation.
Many Greek “City States” were “Allied”…..its root word, BTW, being latin……”Allied” is itself from “Old French “……..
Kodiak,
You really need to read the ruling by the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore. I can tell you know nothing about the ruling. Because you don’t know what in the hell you are writing about. Until you read that ruling I will consider from this point foward anything you write on the subject as nothing more than a load of uninformed merde and not worth my time to read. For chrissakes man, school’s out, resist the sirens’ song of stupidity.
Shaun,
Is it just my lack of knowledge on the actual US electoral fiddling that’s simply breathtaking or is it that we don’t share the same vision about that & its implications?
Shall I evoke Prescott Bush’s contribution to Nazi affairs in the 30s to be entitled to repeat that Hitler & Saddam (or El Assad) can’t be compared ?
Why don’t you use “coalition of the willing” instead? A laborious periphrase that can’t make up for unilateralism’s vacuity…
Edmund Burke,
“It is one thing for Paris to discover that France does not figure highly into Washington’s calculus. It is quite another to find out that the same holds true in Tripoli”
This remark illustrates perfectly why unilateralism can’t work.
Don’t be surprised the Frogs open their big mouth as wide as they can & shout at your ears as loud as they can. Any unilateral decision entailing far-reaching consequences like lifting the embargo on Libya may interfere with one or more domestic policy(ies) or global policy as a whole (as oppposed to what Washington, only, wants).
Now you’re being sarcarstic with France. How will you feel when North Korea or even China are deciding to make you understand their point of view, at any cost?
Don’t you think co-operation works better than fait accompli?
“Don’t be surprised the Frogs open their big mouth as wide as they can & shout at your ears as loud as they can.”
We won’t be surprised. That’s about all the French can do, and we have no doubt they’ll do it. The French public will love it. They Yanks will pay so little attention they’ll barely know it is happening. Sort of like the mosquito having sex with the elephant. The mosquito is having the ride of his life; the elephant doesn’t know the mosquito is there.
“Don’t you think co-operation works better than fait accompli?”
Cooperation is a two-way street. We can’t make France cooperate (well, actually we COULD, but we won’t), but we can and will act without it.
Was France cooperating when it promised to veto the UN vote on military action against Iraq? No.
Is France cooperating with respect to the subject of this story? No.
Sounds like it’s time for France to stop acting unilaterally. After all, cooperation works better than fait accompli.
Re: France & the Libyan sanctions, France deliberately negotiated a low settlement. They hoped that sanctions would be lifted & in exchange the would get favorable access for THEIR businesses, while political pressure over a failure to get a settlement on Lockerbie would mean that Washington maintained a unilateral sanctions.
Instead, not only did we get a settlement, we got a better one than they did — AND … the sanctions will go shortly, with US companies just as free as those of other countries to participate in the upcoming rebuilding of Libyan infrastructure & economy.
In other words, France tried to cut a dirty, under the table deal & it backfired on them. Now Chirac faces his own citizens who are mad that he brought them so little vis a vis the other settlement. Life is tough …..
“This remark illustrates perfectly why unilateralism can’t work.”
You’re quite right. France made a unilateral agreement with Libya over the UTA bombing, instead of joining with Britain and America and jointly pressuring Libya over both atrocities.
The qoute was not mine, by the way, but from the article from Stratfor. The point is that France’s policies to try and build an alliance to oppose the US in order to try and maintain France’s view of it’s importance in the world seems to be backfiring if even Libya does not find France important.
He he, Kodiak is getting pounded. I love it.
Kodiak, you are far, far more amusing than anybody gives you credit for. You should see if you can hook up with Jerry Lewis. Think of the comedy! It’ll be breathtaking, just like your ignorance.
Edmund,
While disagreeing with US unilateralism, I’m not automatically supporting France’s flaws.
Stating why the US vision is not mine doesn’t mean I’m Satan in person.
As for the UTA plane, I really doubt France or the French who’ve lost relatives are wasting their time & dignity opposing the US.
Also, it’s not that Libya is not finding France important. France has always been important to Libya. It’s more that Libya is so enticed by US accosting that she would do anything conceivable to go back in world commerce right now.
Finally, accept it or not: whatever the “importance” of France, nothing’s gonna stop us telling you where you should stop at once.
Alfred,
Glad to se you back.
I’d like to give you a big hug.
Why?
Well, it’s the very first time you don’t insult me.
Thank you very much.
“France has always been important to Libya. It’s more that Libya is so enticed by US accosting that she would do anything….”
LOL. In effect, Libya is doing to France what France did to the U.S.: treacherously breaking faith with an old ally in hopes of pleasing prospective new ones. (However, Libya seems to be doing it better… must be Libya’s sophistication in international affairs, as opposed to France’s simplisme.)
“…I’m not automatically supporting France’s flaws.”
Well, there’s a bold, refreshing statement.
Panda,
Please drop joints: Libya isn’t & never was France’s “old ally”.
Your amusing joke about Libyan sophistication just tells everything about your own…
😉
Kodiak wrote:
“No George The Second wasn’t elected by anyone, weren’t it for a bunch of fossilised, bedridden, unelected hoaxers called The Supreme Joke. ”
We may not care for all the rulings of the Supreme Court, and maybe some want to be rid of them, but for now what happened during our last presidential election was according to the rule of law. Problem with the law is not everyone likes either the rules or the outcome. There are many who didn’t care for the outcome. Too bad.
In the US we don’t have the tradition, of some countries, where people take to the streets periodically and tie up traffic. Oh, we have some of that, but we like to minimize disruptions to our citizens. That’s why, no matter who ‘wins or loses’, we prefer to allow disputes to be settled by our laws and not by a street mob.
I’m so tired of the same old accusations about Pres. Bush and how he somehow came to hold office in a less than legitimate way. Can’t people find anything else to say? What will be the complaint when he gets re-elected with no problems?
(I did not vote for Pres. Bush.)
“Your amusing joke about Libyan sophistication just tells everything about your own…”
Sarcasm is lost on Kodiak. Now there’s a shock.
(Ummm…Kodiak, that last sentence–that was sarcasm.)
The sarcastic part of “Libyan sophistication” and “French simplisme” is that the French explain they are sophisticated and the Yanks are simplisme…but the Libyans just doublecrossed the French, fairly spectacularly, hence the sarcasm regarding “Libyan sophistication” and “French simplisme.”
Sorry, Edmund, RKB, Alfred, et. al; sigh, if I have to explain the joke….
Panda,
Sorry: I forgot to read this captivating tirade of yours that you expectorated just before floating that tedious joke about Libya.
Do you think the US elephant would enjoy SM sex with the Chinese whale?
“Cooperation is a two-way street” >>> I’m so happy your learned something today.
“We can’t make France cooperate (well, actually we COULD, but we won’t), but we can and will act without it” >>> Brrrrrr! I’m paralysed with fear… You should see the Clown appointed by The Supreme Joke begging for European help in Irak. You should see your Texan disaster politely whispering “Excuse me” to Chinese authorities as they were holding a captured US spying plane.
“Was France cooperating when it promised to veto the UN vote on military action against Iraq? No” >>> She wasn’t indeed for she thought it would be an undignified behaviour to collaborate with a rogue State. She was right.
Kodiak,
For our information, are you a supporter of Reseau Voltaire? Again, Panda’s right about your utter ignorance of law. Sometimes the Supreme Court issues rulings that people don’t like. That’s the entire damn point of law. Until the French can stop mocking those who died on 9/11 and understand the depths of the tragedy of that day, there’s no hope for cooperation, as it would be like expecting a clique of immature schoolkids to work with adults. After all, I don’t remember us dumb rubes on the other side of the pond laughing at French suffering under the Nazis. Just grow up.That sorta reasoning won’t get you into any Grande Ecole.
Kodiak
I should first explain I am Irish, not American, as a sweep across my name would show. Even my choice of pseudonym would give a clue.
Seconde. I am not accusing you of being Satan. I am simply disagreeing with you.
Troisieme. The french relatives, as you correctly state, are not wasting their time and dignity opposing the US. They are spending their time opposing the French Government who sold them out in order to garner short term commercial advantage.
Quatrieme. France is quite entitled to its opinion. The question is how relevant is France’s opinion today. Many people who were opposed to the American intervention still see French opposition as purely self serving, and in particular to preserve French commercial advantage in Iraq.
Finally, Panda, no apology necessary. Having lived in France for several years, I am sophistication personified.
Edmund, I was apologizing to you for feeding this troll and foisting on you a boring explanation, and for those things I do owe you and the others an apology. I’ll try harder (VBG).
In any event, your grace is well-taken and appreciated.
Kodiak, I have much to say, but little time left to say it, so I’ll sign off for now with one suggestion:
Lose the demonic hatred.
Remember, you’re a liberal, one of the understanding, compassionate, tolerant ones. As a liberal you are better than the rest of us, so show it.
Also, you’ll live longer without the hatred, and on election night 2004, when George Bush is re-elected, you won’t be consumed with a rage so intense that you simply explode. (Which will save Mrs. Kodiak from having to clean up a really nasty mess in your TV room.)
Oh, the paragraph beginning with “Remember”: sarcasm. The whole thing. Just so you know….
Cheers.
Kodiak,
Froggieland has traditionally collaborated with “Rogue States”.
You exhibit all the hallmarks of a 4 year-old child whose parents are depriving him of his Hersey Bars.
While Froggieland continues on its historical tact, its only destination is oblivion.
The primary purpose of the “EURO” currency is to allow Froggieland to exist on the capital of other countries.
Millions have died over the decades due to Froggies running foreign countries.
Most of the worst genocidial maniacs of the last century were educated in Froggieland.
Much as I enjoy baiting Kodiak, perhaps the pejorative “frog” and its derivatives would be best left to others.
I am assuming that the French are offended by the term “frog.” If not, have at it.
Saudis take on the issue
Editorial: Mercenary Irritation
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=30588&d=20&m=8&y=2003
Kodiak, in your rant about W, where does the Florida Supreme Court and Florida Constitution fit in?
The FLASC was a rogue court. The Chief Justice of the FLASC went on TV and told the Supremes the FLA majority decision violates FLA law, IIRC. And they IGNORED the USSC when the USSC basically asked them what the hell are you doing?
However, the FLA Legislature wrote a bad procedure.
It works like this in the US – Legislature makes the law, justice interprets the law. Justice cannot make law, which is what the FLASC tried to do. They were stopped 7-2. And my rights were violated in IL by the 5-4 decision. My vote only counted once, while some in FLA counted 7 (!) times!
–Now you’re being sarcarstic with France. How will you feel when North Korea or even China are deciding to make you understand their point of view, at any cost?
Don’t you think co-operation works better than fait accompli?–
Ummm, you do know there’s a 6-way meeting 8/25-8/27 w/the NorKs, don’t you?
And for the 1st time ever, Russia’s participating in a navel exercise w/the SorKs and Japan? And 30,000 Russian soldiers will carry out a drill simulating a response to a massive flow of North Korean refugees that might take place as a result of a war or a collapse of Kim Jong-il’s regime.
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And all this IN SPITE of *the world* telling the US to act unilaterally about NK.
Oh and the Japanese AND CHINESE are going a joint exercise off of NK too. Seems that the Dear Leader is getting sent several big ole happy, unprecedentedly multilateral, messages.
Oh no, multilateral cooperation and the French are no where to be seen, how strange!
Frank,
“Until the French can stop mocking those who died on 9/11 and understand the depths of the tragedy of that day (…)”
I strongly hope you weren’t that serious…
How can you assert that the French were having fun at the ones caught in the towers? You have no idea about the schock 11 September provoked here, too.
We do know what it feels to be hurt by terrorism. We do know what it’s like when you have to inform unknowing families that their children are dead. We do know what it’s like to collect the remains of dismantled corpses in the streets. We did see the disarray of victims going mad. We did also feel the pain when hearing hiding perpetrators laughing at ourselves. We did also felt the terrorists’ spit on our faces as they were democratically judged by a regular court.
You don’t have the monopoly of this privilege…
Chris Jopsephson,
“That’s why, no matter who ‘wins or loses’, we prefer to allow disputes to be settled by our laws and not by a street mob”
Including the racial or urban riots of New York (1863), South Carolina (76), Springfield (1908), East Saint Louis & Houston (17), Pennsylvania (18), Chicago (19), Tulsa (21), Harlem (35), North Carolina (41), Mississippi (62), Birmingham & New York (63), Watts, Chicago, Cleveland, Dayton, Milwaukee, Atlanta, San Francisco & Montgomery (65), Chicago (66), Boston, Tampa, Chicago, Philadelphie, Cincinnati, Détroit, Buffalo, Saint Louis, Milwaukee & Newark (67), Orangeburg, Omaha, Chicago & Memphis (68), Chicago, Memphis, Columbus & York (69), Boston & Louisville (75), Miami (80), Miami (89), LA (92), Cincinnati & Benton Harbor (2003) ?
NB: with 200 riots alone, the year 1970 has not been mentioned in the list above.
Chris: I invite you to join a demo made up of French striking civil-sevants. You’ll taste the difference at once. In France we do have “the tradition, of some countries, where people take to the streets periodically and tie up traffic”, but at least we try to refrain from killing each others.
Kodiak,
The most well known toilet roll/fish wrapper out of Froggieland…..Le Monde…..regularly pours shit on the Americans and their “Simplistic” views reguarding the aftermarth of 9/11.
A Froggie sewer inhabitant….errr….intellectual, called Alain Soral is calling for stronger and more accurate attacks on America.
Froggie Government run TV regularly pours shit on America for just about anything….apparently this is good for their ratings !!!!
And repeating….your lack of knowledge on the operations of the electoral process of the United States is simply breathtaking…..especially considering the level you care to piss, moan and whine at.
Sandy P.,
I’m glad the US is behaving multilaterally regarding NK. It’s a very good thing indeed.
But what if NK was drenched with oil & got absolutely no WMD?
Shaun,
I agree: Le Monde is the most uninteresting newspaper ever published on Earth. There’s nothing in it except pathetic ads & “intellectual” wanking. It’s a big (overpriced) disgrace.
Well, you don’t have to be a Le Monde-reader to share the same views about US foreign politics.
I don’t know who’s Alain Soral. If what your report is accurate, then this guy must be sent to next psychiatric hospital.
French TVs are private or public but they all interview both Iraqis & US soldiers.
I’m not restarting the debate about US electoral specificity. It’s not just about article n° X of code n° Y; it’s the whole system that’s rotten.
Kodiak,
Pray tell….how can one pass judgement on a political system that one has no understanding of ???
Peking has come onboard with the “round table” discussions on NK precisely because NK has operational nuclear warheads.
NK has had huge quantities of Yankee Oil for years thanks to BJ Clinton……and its been FREE.
Sadly, the people of NK have devolved to canibalism to survive.
We have all witnessed the terrible damage wrought by union strikes in Froggieland over the decades………which is how employment laws are debated in Froggieland.
The riots in New York city in 1863 were over the draft that had be instituted for the Civil War. You left-out the Haymarket riots of 1886……care to explain why ??????….plus there are many others…….why are they not on the list too ????
Where would you like to go next ??
Kodiak,
You can PURCHASE copies of the various scribblings of Alain Soral at amazon.fr . Please let us all know here at Samizdata how comfortable the paper is as you wipe you ass with it after using the shitter.
“Merde in France” now informs us that a “bottom feeding drunk….singer by the name of Renaud ” has revitalised his career by singing a song that shits on the memory of the victims of 9/11…but he has also been voted the 7th most popular celeb by the Froggie public !!!
Shaun,
1/ Riots: glad you help me complete the list of US “disputes (…) settled by (US) laws and not by a street mob” (quoting Chris Josephson). I was merely helping Chris find accurate examples of peaceful settlements of US disputes.
2/ Strikes, unemployment in France: you’re positively as ignorant about Fr social history as I am about US electoral fiddling.
3/ Alain Soral: I’m certainly not going to purchase any crap from a demented writer. But I googled his name & although I didn’t read anything of him, I recognised his face on a picture. He’s a kind of licensed “agitator” writing stuff like “Socrates in Saint-Tropez”. Apparently he’s selling hard since he’s sponsored by many publishing or webmarketing houses. That fact alone isn’t a good sign…
4/ Renaud: you should know he’s just an alcoholic “singer” deprived of any bit of talent, not to mention the “music” which is atrocious even to deaf people. I’m googling again. All right I found it. It’s a song called “Manhattan-Kaboul”. Oh I see: he’s singing with a girl. It’s selling good (I don’t know why: the text is appalling, the voices are galling your ears, the rhymes are desperately poorer than anything conceivable, etc). I don’t think is really is making fun about 9/11 victims. I’ll have to check the lyrics but it’s so boring…
Shaun,
Here are the lyrics:
Petit Portoricain, bien intégré quasiment New-yorkais
Dans mon building tout de verre et d’acier,
Je prends mon job, un rail de coke, un café,
Petite fille Afghane, de l’autre côté de la terre,
Jamais entendu parler de Manhattan,
Mon quotidien c’est la misère et la guerre
Deux étrangers au bout du monde, si différents
Deux inconnus, deux anonymes, mais pourtant,
Pulvérisés, sur l’autel, de la violence éternelle
Un 747, s’est explosé dans mes fenêtres,
Mon ciel si bleu est devenu orage,
Lorsque les bombes ont rasé mon village
Deux étrangers au bout du monde, si différents
Deux inconnus, deux anonymes, mais pourtant,
Pulvérisés, sur l’autel, de la violence éternelle
So long, adieu mon rêve américain,
Moi, plus jamais esclave des chiens
Vite imposé l’islam des tyrans
Ceux là ont-ils jamais lu le coran ?
Suis redev’nu poussière,
Je s’rai pas maître de l’univers,
Ce pays que j’aimais tellement serait-il
Finalement colosse aux pieds d’argile ?
Les dieux, les religions,
Les guerres de civilisation,
Les armes, les drapeaux, les patries, les nations,
Font toujours de nous de la chair à canon
Deux étrangers au bout du monde, si différents
Deux inconnus, deux anonymes, mais pourtant,
Pulvérisés, sur l’autel, de la violence éternelle
Deux étrangers au bout du monde, si différents
Deux inconnus, deux anonymes, mais pourtant,
Pulvérisés, sur l’autel, de la violence éternelle.
Frankly speaking, I’m too lazy to translate this tedious stuff for you. But may people speak French here.
–You have no idea about the s(c)hock 11 September provoked here, too. —
Stick a sock in it, Kodiak, even tho LeMonde’s headline said we are all Americans now, they still blamed us in the article. It’s called the web and free translation programs, Kodiak, we know. And your history precedes you.
And tell me, if Britain does vote to officially join the EU, is phrawnce going to try and control the North Sea oil??? Did a pretty damn good job on controlling Scotland’s fish catch. Now why would 80% have to go to phrawnce?
–But what if NK was drenched with oil & got absolutely no WMD?–
Then they’d be the boy king w/the regent (China) running it. China’s going to need A LOT of oil, and they and Japan might go at it over drilling in the South China Sea(?)/Sea of Japan in the somewhat near future.
And at least the great unwashed NorKs would be eating food, not grass and possibly dead bodies. Did you see today’s article about Iran, the mad mullahs and corp wealth why the masses get poorer and more hungry??
Same MO. All that oil money and the people are starving.
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And phrawnce’s “Let’s fall in love again” campaign to woo us back is a waste of money. Buy A/C instead.
Sandy P.,
As an inhabitant of phrawnce, here’s my reply to you, haunting the younightiddsteidzz or graaah-eetbrudden:
1/ If you take your foreign information thanx to internet translation stuff, well good luck >>> it’s bad.
2/ Not everyone in phrawnce is a Le Mondoholic, you know.
3/ The UK is (unfortunately) already in the EU.
4/ China will surely have a enormous oil glutony, anytime soon, now they’re experiencing a rapid development. There may be some oil in the sea, but there’s more in the region ranging from Chinese Sinkiang up to Middle East through Central Asia. I can’t wait for the predictible showdown between China & the US (which tried to secure & close up the whole region).
5/ Woody Allen campaign: ridiculous, unnecessary, expensive >>> another kick in your ass would have been enough (BTW: we’re still waiting for the boycott, sweetie).
— (BTW: we’re still waiting for the boycott, sweetie).–
Really?
Not from what I’ve been reading on the net.
Just because Europe is on it’s annual leave, does not mean they’re going to make up our shortfall.
There’s lot of good links at Steven Den Beste’s site. Just search “France.” Chock full of goodness, but he’s wordy.
and f***france.com is also interesting.
Wine is down, tourism is down.
We may be small in numbers visiting paree, but we spent the most.
Sandy P.,
Don’t believe everything you come across that’s in the net. Consider this, which is not to be found on the net: Bush isn’t your president, God isn’t existing & can’t be supportive of the USA, Hiroshima & Nagasaki couldn’t be avoided…
Also, you don’t spend the most. Japanese, Taiwanese & Emiratis are.
Wine is just wonderful as usual. Tourism isn’t doing too bad. Thank you.
BTW: whadabout unemployment in the youh-essey ?